NeXTSTEP?

NeXTSTEP?

Post by Freerid » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 07:56:09



http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller company.
It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool looking
desktop.

 
 
 

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Post by d2003x » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:04:07


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> http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

> I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with
> it years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller
> company.  It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very
> cool looking desktop.

hmmmm... Where can I get it?

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Post by Mark » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:17:16



> http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

> I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
> years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller company.
> It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool looking
> desktop.

What do you think OSX is a development of?
 
 
 

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Post by Freerid » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:18:45



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>> http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>> I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
>> years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller
>> company.  It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool
>> looking desktop.

> hmmmm... Where can I get it?

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Where else than Ebay.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay...
 
 
 

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Post by Freerid » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:27:48




>> http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>> I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
>> years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller company.
>> It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool looking
>> desktop.
> What do you think OSX is a development of?

I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!! :)
 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:43:03





>>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
>>>years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller company.
>>>It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool looking
>>>desktop.

>>What do you think OSX is a development of?

> I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!! :)

WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)
 
 
 

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Post by Freerid » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:00:43






>>>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>>>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with
>>>>it years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller
>>>>company. It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool
>>>>looking desktop.

>>>What do you think OSX is a development of?

>> I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!! :)

> WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
> window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
> polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)

I was just reminiscing about the Nextstep OS way back in 1996-1997 and
having installed and played with it, back then it had the coolest desktop
of any OS I had seen before. I have no intentions of running it, I am quite
happy with dual Athlon 2600's running RH9 box and KDE.:)
 
 
 

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Post by Erik Funkenbusc » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:10:10


On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:43:03 +1200





> >>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

> >>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play
> >with it>>years ago when I worked at a large hardware
> >integration/reseller company.>>It sure was ahead of it time back
> >then, and had a very cool looking>>desktop.

> >>What do you think OSX is a development of?

> > I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!!
> > :)

> WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
> window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
> polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)

Nope, sorry.  WindowMaker (and several others) do a good job of
*LOOKING* like NextStep, but it's missing a lot of functionality that
NextStep had.  NextStep was an entire Object Oriented (Well, Object
based really) framework.
 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:22:30



> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:43:03 +1200




>>>>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>>>>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play

>>>with it>>years ago when I worked at a large hardware
>>>integration/reseller company.>>It sure was ahead of it time back
>>>then, and had a very cool looking>>desktop.

>>>>What do you think OSX is a development of?

>>>I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!!
>>>:)

>>WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
>>window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
>>polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)

> Nope, sorry.  WindowMaker (and several others) do a good job of
> *LOOKING* like NextStep, but it's missing a lot of functionality that
> NextStep had.  NextStep was an entire Object Oriented (Well, Object
> based really) framework.

Was it as object orientated as OS/2 Erik?
 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:55:19







>>>>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>>>>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with
>>>>>it years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller
>>>>>company. It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool
>>>>>looking desktop.

>>>>What do you think OSX is a development of?

>>>I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!! :)

>>WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
>>window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
>>polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)

> I was just reminiscing about the Nextstep OS way back in 1996-1997 and
> having installed and played with it, back then it had the coolest desktop
> of any OS I had seen before. I have no intentions of running it, I am quite
> happy with dual Athlon 2600's running RH9 box and KDE.:)

Cool. Unfortunately KDE runs slow on my humble beasts hense me pref for
WindowMaker. Here's a link that may be of interest
though-http://www.gnustep.org/
 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 11:03:58



> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:43:03 +1200




>>>>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>>>>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play

>>>with it>>years ago when I worked at a large hardware
>>>integration/reseller company.>>It sure was ahead of it time back
>>>then, and had a very cool looking>>desktop.

>>>>What do you think OSX is a development of?

>>>I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!!
>>>:)

>>WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
>>window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
>>polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)

> Nope, sorry.  WindowMaker (and several others) do a good job of
> *LOOKING* like NextStep, but it's missing a lot of functionality that
> NextStep had.  NextStep was an entire Object Oriented (Well, Object
> based really) framework.

GNuStep seems to be doing a good job at impliment the OOness
Erik-http://simplygnustep.sourceforge.net/Screenshots.html
 
 
 

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Post by Lin?nu » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:18:10


While watching the eternal hourglass, Erik Funkenbusch assayed this pronouncement:

Quote:> Nope, sorry.  WindowMaker (and several others) do a good job of
> *LOOKING* like NextStep, but it's missing a lot of functionality that
> NextStep had.  NextStep was an entire Object Oriented (Well, Object
> based really) framework.

Cool!  Object-oriented!  Just like Microsoft said Windows NT was!
Neat!

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Post by d2003x » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:37:16


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> >>>http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

> >>>I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
> >>>years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller company.
> >>>It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool looking
> >>>desktop.

> >>What do you think OSX is a development of?
> > I have been stuck in a Micro$oft/Novell world for too many years!! :)

> WindowMaker does a good job providing NextStep functionality and is my
> window manager of choice there is also Afterstep which IMHO isn't as
> polished as WM. Each to there own though. ;)

Nah, what NextStep has is not only a cool UI, but a very advanced
environment. The API is all in objective-c, with great design (far
better than shitty X/Motif API), and it can call remote methods
transparently.

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Post by mathew » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:31:15



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>> http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

>> I never knew that Apple bought them out. I got to load and play with it
>> years ago when I worked at a large hardware integration/reseller
>> company.  It sure was ahead of it time back then, and had a very cool
>> looking desktop.

> hmmmm... Where can I get it?

Don't expect to be able to run it on your peecee. The x86 version has
*very* specific hardware requirements.
 
 
 

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Post by d2003x » Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:39:05


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> While watching the eternal hourglass, Erik Funkenbusch assayed this pronouncement:

> > Nope, sorry.  WindowMaker (and several others) do a good job of
> > *LOOKING* like NextStep, but it's missing a lot of functionality that
> > NextStep had.  NextStep was an entire Object Oriented (Well, Object
> > based really) framework.

> Cool!  Object-oriented!  Just like Microsoft said Windows NT was!
> Neat!

But NextStep is really OO.

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1. mount NeXTSTEP filesys under Linux / boot NeXTSTEP with LILO?

I suspect these are a FAQs, but couldn't find anything about it so far:

One of the machines i administer is a 486 PC, which until recently ran
NeXTSTEP. We've now built in a second SCSI disk contianing Linux
(DLD distribution with 1.1.72 kernel - runs fine, so far).

What's the elegant way do decide, which system to start at boot time?
Does LILO work with NeXTSTEP, or does NeXTSTEP provide a better
bootstrap loader?

Is there a way to mount NeXTSTEP filesystems under Linux?

Thanx in advance
Armin

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