Agreed, and more . .

Agreed, and more . .

Post by Paul Schmi » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00






>>Linux is lots of things- quick /easy install and maintenance is not
>>one of them.

>   I dunno about that.  It takes me about 20 minutes to install Mastodon
>   onto a reasonably modern PC, and maintenance is simply a matter of
>   using <C><A><D> to shut the machine down instead of powering it off.
>   The longest it took me was about 4 hours onto a 486, because that
>   486 was running the (horrible) OnTrack disk manager, which after
>   getting infected with a dos virus was in such a state so it wouldn't
>   boot.  (And Linux supports OnTrack, so I had to recompile the kernel
>   after booting off the install floppy, and recompiling a kernel takes
>   a while on a 486.)

Since when has Linux supported OnTrack Disk Mangler, er Manager?  

Quote:>   The worst Linux installs I've ever seen have been with Redhat Linux,
>   and the worst of those wasn't more than a hour -- a whopping 10
>   minutes longer than the worst Slackware or SuSE installs I've had.

Caldera has a nice install as well, create your partitions, tell it which
install option you want, and go grab lunch, everything is nicely installed
when you get back.
                  ____

Quote:>   david parsons \bi/ NT is usually 30 minutes, except for on one Quantum
>                  \/  Bigfoot where I spent about 14 hours trying to get
>                  the thing to install and not fall over when I then
>                  put Linux on the other partition.

Windows, and it doesn't really matter which variation (3.x, 9x, NT),
installs work well, as long as everything is Windows friendly, however
if it unusual in some way, then the installer tends to leave you wanting.
Linux, and it doesn't matter which distribution, will usually try to give
you some options.  The only exception are the so called soft devices.

--
Paul Schmidt
Your Computer is our Business

web  : www.interlog.com/~pschmidt

 
 
 

Agreed, and more . .

Post by david parso » Sat, 07 Nov 1998 04:00:00







>>>Linux is lots of things- quick /easy install and maintenance is not
>>>one of them.

>>   I dunno about that.  It takes me about 20 minutes to install Mastodon
>>   onto a reasonably modern PC, and maintenance is simply a matter of
>>   using <C><A><D> to shut the machine down instead of powering it off.
>>   The longest it took me was about 4 hours onto a 486, because that
>>   486 was running the (horrible) OnTrack disk manager, which after
>>   getting infected with a dos virus was in such a state so it wouldn't
>>   boot.  (And Linux supports OnTrack, so I had to recompile the kernel
>>   after booting off the install floppy, and recompiling a kernel takes
>>   a while on a 486.)

>Since when has Linux supported OnTrack Disk Mangler, er Manager?  

   I don't know.  (It's possible that it's not ontrack, but another
   of the disk manager programs for DOS.)  In any case, the IDE driver
   was cheerfully relocating the start of the disk 64 or so sectors
   up the disk so that it wouldn't interfere with the infected ontrack
   goop.  So I installed Mastodon, then left the install floppy in
   and booted the installed system properly so I could hack the ontrack
   goop out of the ide driver, build a `recovery' floppy with the
   modified kernel, dd my way to an ontrack free disk, and reinstall.

Quote:>                  ____
>>   david parsons \bi/ NT is usually 30 minutes, except for on one Quantum
>>                  \/  Bigfoot where I spent about 14 hours trying to get
>>                      the thing to install and not fall over when I then
>>                      put Linux on the other partition.

>Windows, and it doesn't really matter which variation (3.x, 9x, NT),
>installs work well, as long as everything is Windows friendly,

     The funny thing is after I gave up on trying to install NT (after
     doing such extreme things as replacing the hard disk on the
     machine) and decided to use Windows 95 instead, it went onto the
     disk with no fuss, no muss, and no bother, and it stayed working
     when I re-lilo'ed linux and made it into a dual-boot machine.

                   ____
     david parsons \bi/  Now if Microsoft made Windows source available,
                    \/  there'd be some incentive for people to hack on
                         it and make it better.  But I suppose that too
                          many people would laugh at Dave Cutler for NT,
                         and annoying your lead developers is no way to
                                                  gain employee loyalty.