Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by cybea » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 19:48:59



http://news.com.com/2100-1001-982816.html

Interesting...

Two elements of the client work are in the new KDE 3.1, released Tuesday:
the KMail software can handle encrypted e-mail attachments, and the
KOrganizer calendar software can communicate with Exchange 2000 servers.

...

Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser, Konqueror, in the
forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple Computer picked the
Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that company's new Safari product,
and Pour estimates that Apple's involvement more than doubles the number of
programmers working on the project.

"It's basically a team effort between Apple and KDE at this point," Pour
said.

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by paul cook » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:01:01



comp.os.linux.advocacy to propose the following:

Quote:> http://news.com.com/2100-1001-982816.html

> Interesting...

|KDE, one of the major interfaces designed to make Linux slick looking
|and easier to use, has been upgraded, an effort that includes the first
|results of work funded by the German government. |
|
|The software comes from the Kroupware project, bankrolled by the German
|government to build open-source software that can substitute for
|Microsoft's Exchange and Outlook. Though the first elements have
|appeared in the new KDE 3.1 software, more will arrive in 3.2 later
|this year, said Andreas Pour, president of the KDE League.

Oh great!!! now Microsoft will complain about governments unfairly
meddling in the market by funding the opposition :)

Quote:

> Two elements of the client work are in the new KDE 3.1, released
> Tuesday: the KMail software can handle encrypted e-mail attachments,
> and the KOrganizer calendar software can communicate with Exchange 2000
> servers.

goody...

Quote:> ...

> Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser, Konqueror,
> in the forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple Computer picked
> the Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that company's new Safari
> product, and Pour estimates that Apple's involvement more than doubles
> the number of programmers working on the project.

damn I was hoping it would get folded back in quicker than that in say
3.1.1... :(

Quote:

> "It's basically a team effort between Apple and KDE at this point,"
> Pour said.

--
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  Linux Counter: Home Page = http://counter.li.org/

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by COLA_Moderato » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:51:14




> comp.os.linux.advocacy to propose the following:

> > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-982816.html

> > Interesting...

> |KDE, one of the major interfaces designed to make Linux slick looking
> |and easier to use, has been upgraded, an effort that includes the first
> |results of work funded by the German government. |
> |
> |The software comes from the Kroupware project, bankrolled by the German
> |government to build open-source software that can substitute for
> |Microsoft's Exchange and Outlook. Though the first elements have
> |appeared in the new KDE 3.1 software, more will arrive in 3.2 later
> |this year, said Andreas Pour, president of the KDE League.

> Oh great!!! now Microsoft will complain about governments unfairly
> meddling in the market by funding the opposition :)

> > Two elements of the client work are in the new KDE 3.1, released
> > Tuesday: the KMail software can handle encrypted e-mail attachments,
> > and the KOrganizer calendar software can communicate with Exchange 2000
> > servers.

> goody...

> > ...

> > Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser, Konqueror,
> > in the forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple Computer picked
> > the Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that company's new Safari
> > product, and Pour estimates that Apple's involvement more than doubles
> > the number of programmers working on the project.

> damn I was hoping it would get folded back in quicker than that in say
> 3.1.1... :(

> > "It's basically a team effort between Apple and KDE at this point,"
> > Pour said.

I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.
 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Billy O'Conno » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 21:25:09



>> > Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser, Konqueror,
>> > in the forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple Computer picked
>> > the Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that company's new Safari
>> > product, and Pour estimates that Apple's involvement more than doubles
>> > the number of programmers working on the project.

> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

Nice try.  Even the madmen who have seized power in America
know better than to do business with those gangsters.

http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html

--
Billy O'Connor
Editor, Beyond Linux From Scratch   http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org
"Free software never simply picks up its marbles and goes home."
      - Jonathan Corbet, LWN

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Dave Leig » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:16:33


COLA_Moderator wrote on Friday 31 January 2003 13:51 in message

Quote:> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
> help to those bastards.??It's?about?time?we?stand?up?to?defend?our?US
> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

Nah, the US Government should immediately use the free software funded by
the Germans to reduce our taxes. This is also good for Microsoft, as their
programmers will no longer have to expend efforts on this commodity
software and can concentrate their talents on their new core business...
Xbox programming.

--
Dave Leigh, Consulting Systems Analyst
Cratchit.org

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Rick » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:06:15






>> in comp.os.linux.advocacy to propose the following:

>> > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-982816.html

>> > Interesting...

>> |KDE, one of the major interfaces designed to make Linux slick looking
>> |and easier to use, has been upgraded, an effort that includes the first
>> |results of work funded by the German government. |
>> |
>> |The software comes from the Kroupware project, bankrolled by the German
>> |government to build open-source software that can substitute for
>> |Microsoft's Exchange and Outlook. Though the first elements have
>> |appeared in the new KDE 3.1 software, more will arrive in 3.2 later
>> |this year, said Andreas Pour, president of the KDE League.

>> Oh great!!! now Microsoft will complain about governments unfairly
>> meddling in the market by funding the opposition :)

>> > Two elements of the client work are in the new KDE 3.1, released
>> > Tuesday: the KMail software can handle encrypted e-mail attachments,
>> > and the KOrganizer calendar software can communicate with Exchange
>> > 2000 servers.

>> goody...

>> > ...

>> > Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser, Konqueror,
>> > in the forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple Computer picked
>> > the Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that company's new Safari
>> > product, and Pour estimates that Apple's involvement more than doubles
>> > the number of programmers working on the project.

>> damn I was hoping it would get folded back in quicker than that in say
>> 3.1.1... :(

>> > "It's basically a team effort between Apple and KDE at this point,"
>> > Pour said.

> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

I see you are an idiot too.

--
Rick

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by GreyClou » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:08:48



> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

M$ is a national GEM??
 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by roodwrite » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:17:22



> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

I thought this was intended to be satirical until I saw who wrote it.

--Rod

--
Author of "Linux for Non-Geeks--Clear-eyed Answers for Practical Consumers"
and "Boring Stories from Uncle Rod." Both are available at
http://rodwriterpublishing.com/index.html

To reply by e-mail, take the extra "o" out of my e-mail address. It's to
confuse spambots, of course.

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Thomas Stuef » Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:40:49






>> comp.os.linux.advocacy to propose the following:

>> > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-982816.html

>> > Interesting...

>> |KDE, one of the major interfaces designed to make Linux slick looking
>> |and easier to use, has been upgraded, an effort that includes the first
>> |results of work funded by the German government. |
>> |
>> |The software comes from the Kroupware project, bankrolled by the German
>> |government to build open-source software that can substitute for
>> |Microsoft's Exchange and Outlook. Though the first elements have
>> |appeared in the new KDE 3.1 software, more will arrive in 3.2 later
>> |this year, said Andreas Pour, president of the KDE League.

>> Oh great!!! now Microsoft will complain about governments unfairly
>> meddling in the market by funding the opposition :)

>> > Two elements of the client work are in the new KDE 3.1, released
>> > Tuesday: the KMail software can handle encrypted e-mail attachments,
>> > and the KOrganizer calendar software can communicate with Exchange 2000
>> > servers.

>> goody...

>> > ...

>> > Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser, Konqueror,
>> > in the forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple Computer picked
>> > the Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that company's new Safari
>> > product, and Pour estimates that Apple's involvement more than doubles
>> > the number of programmers working on the project.

>> damn I was hoping it would get folded back in quicker than that in say
>> 3.1.1... :(

>> > "It's basically a team effort between Apple and KDE at this point,"
>> > Pour said.

> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

What financial aid are you talking about, idiot? You are dumber than a
brick. Well, you have to be, what with Master MSCE and all.
 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Sinister Midge » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 00:26:06




>> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and other
>> countries that fund companies to compete agains our own companies, no more
>> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
>> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

> M$ is a national GEM??

Yeah. They stole the diamonds and replaced them with cheap quartz.

--
Windows: Pay more, expect less.

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by paul cook » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 00:57:59


Sinister Midget was seen in

to propose the following:


> scribbled:

>>> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and
>>> other countries that fund companies to compete agains our own
>>> companies, no more
>>> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
>>> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

>> M$ is a national GEM??

> Yeah. They stole the diamonds and replaced them with cheap quartz.

 awww shucks... I thought it was a typo and should have been spelt
"germs"...

--
Paul Cooke
  Registered Linux user 273897 Machine registration number 156819
  Linux Counter: Home Page = http://counter.li.org/

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Bill Shin » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 04:29:38






>> cybear was seen in

>> comp.os.linux.advocacy to propose the following:

>> > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-982816.html

>> > Interesting...

>> |KDE, one of the major interfaces designed to make Linux slick
>> |looking and easier to use, has been upgraded, an effort that
>> |includes the first results of work funded by the German government.
>> ||
>> |
>> |The software comes from the Kroupware project, bankrolled by the
>> |German government to build open-source software that can substitute
>> |for Microsoft's Exchange and Outlook. Though the first elements have
>> |appeared in the new KDE 3.1 software, more will arrive in 3.2 later
>> |this year, said Andreas Pour, president of the KDE League.

>> Oh great!!! now Microsoft will complain about governments unfairly
>> meddling in the market by funding the opposition :)

>> > Two elements of the client work are in the new KDE 3.1, released
>> > Tuesday: the KMail software can handle encrypted e-mail
>> > attachments, and the KOrganizer calendar software can communicate
>> > with Exchange 2000 servers.

>> goody...

>> > ...

>> > Pour expects new improvements coming to KDE's Web browser,
>> > Konqueror, in the forthcoming version 3.2. Programmers from Apple
>> > Computer picked the Konqueror foundation, KHTML, for use in that
>> > company's new Safari product, and Pour estimates that Apple's
>> > involvement more than doubles the number of programmers working on
>> > the project.

>> damn I was hoping it would get folded back in quicker than that in
>> say 3.1.1... :(

>> > "It's basically a team effort between Apple and KDE at this point,"
>> > Pour said.

> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and
> other countries that fund companies to compete agains our own
> companies, no more help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand
> up to defend our US businesses, national gems like Microsoft
> Corporation.

Could you keep the nationalistic garbage off of this newsgroup, please?
In my opinion, it's great to see the german government give software
contracts to german companies.  Could you please stop posting, because
your postings are turning americans into the laughing stock of COLA.  We
aren't all as stupid and as bigoted as you are.

As far as financial aid to Germany goes, last time I looked, Germany was
giving aid to the United States (The German Marshall fund, which supports
some PBS programming), and the United States was not giving any aid to
Germany.  It would help if you would get your facts straight.

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Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Sinister Midge » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 04:27:13



> Sinister Midget was seen in

> to propose the following:


>> scribbled:

>>>> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and
>>>> other countries that fund companies to compete agains our own
>>>> companies, no more
>>>> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
>>>> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

>>> M$ is a national GEM??

>> Yeah. They stole the diamonds and replaced them with cheap quartz.

>  awww shucks... I thought it was a typo and should have been spelt
> "germs"...

They're that, too: WMD - Winders of Mass Destruction.

--
Linux: Because you can!

 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by GreyClou » Sun, 02 Feb 2003 06:02:11




> > Sinister Midget was seen in

> > to propose the following:


> >> scribbled:

> >>>> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and
> >>>> other countries that fund companies to compete agains our own
> >>>> companies, no more
> >>>> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
> >>>> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

> >>> M$ is a national GEM??

> >> Yeah. They stole the diamonds and replaced them with cheap quartz.

> >  awww shucks... I thought it was a typo and should have been spelt
> > "germs"...

> They're that, too: WMD - Winders of Mass Destruction.

And here I thought that windows XP was a worm...  that's
where butterflys come from.
 
 
 

Germany-funded Linux software arriving

Post by Sinister Midge » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:00:22





>> > Sinister Midget was seen in

>> > to propose the following:


>> >> scribbled:

>> >>>> I say to our USA government, cut all financial aid to Germany and
>> >>>> other countries that fund companies to compete agains our own
>> >>>> companies, no more
>> >>>> help to those bastards.  It's about time we stand up to defend our US
>> >>>> businesses, national gems like Microsoft Corporation.

>> >>> M$ is a national GEM??

>> >> Yeah. They stole the diamonds and replaced them with cheap quartz.

>> >  awww shucks... I thought it was a typo and should have been spelt
>> > "germs"...

>> They're that, too: WMD - Winders of Mass Destruction.

> And here I thought that windows XP was a worm...  that's
> where butterflys come from.

I think that butterfly thing will go down as one of their great gaffes.
Right up there with telling the world how to get off of *NIX being
served on *NIX servers. Or the MAC user that "switched" to eX-Pee
(perhaps even to keep her job). Or keeping Hotmail on non-M$ servers.

What next? A head lice mascot? MICROS~1-Crabs? Nekkid *s selling
"hot" new software to soccer-moms?

--
Whip me, Beat me, Windows Me(tm)

 
 
 

1. Funding GPL projects or funding the GPL?

In a recent discussion about developers running out of money (arch,
perl) and what can we do for helping them I can up with an idea. I'd
like to share it with anyone in the list even though it'll probably be
disregarded or flamed. The Kernel may well be nicely funded, because of
companies supported. But that's not always the case, and the schema just
fails in a lot of key areas of OSS.

Why post it here then? Because for it to work it must be supported by
at least some of the grand developements of OSS.

Here's the actual idea, which actually is a slashdot repost

Re:Isn't dual-licensing with the GPL perfect for t (Score:2)

(User #525414 Info | http://www.arrancar.com/)

Yes, but that underfunds the projects. You can see this clearly when
Microsoft can sell lots of buggy software and of the best OSS developers
can't earn a decent salary.

I'd love to see a new license, that could be called the fGPL. That would
be the "Funded GPL". To be able to use fGPLd programs you'll HAVE to
contribute some small amount of money to the fGPL foundation. You'll not
be required to pay for any individual fGPL software, just a plain simple
yearly $10 or $20 charge. And you will be able to distribute exactly
where that money goes, among all the different projects. If you can't
pay $20 a year it will be no problem, just a bit penalty: all fGPL
software would be free as in beer once the year passes (old releases).

The money paid to the developers would only cover salaries and some
expenses that are needing to continue developement. So if any proyect
gets over-funded, you'll be noticed that you must reasign some of your
credits.

It'd always be free as in freedom. We only need to bring some beer for
that to happen. It'll also kill the anti OSS argument that the system is
for comunists or anti-american. I know that is FUD, but do your
representatives know that? It will also kill most of the other FUD
targeted at OSS and will also bust developement to unknown levels.

What do we need for this to happen?

To have the Linux Kernel, the Red Hat distro, mplayer, X and gcc (for
example, could be others as well) adopting the fGPL for the next
releases. After that, we'll see most every GPLd program adopting the
fGPL. After that, you'll start to see how much sense it made to pay $20
a year. And even the ones that can't pay (if any) will be able to use
the software (though 1 year old, but their hardware si severla years old
for sure).

This is my opinion. I'd gladly pay the $20, as long as EVERYONE ELSE
pays their $20. That's why we don't see many donations now: because you
have this felling everyone else is just waiting for a fool like you to
contribute to project X in order to save it.

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Thanks for everything and to everyone here!

Federico

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