Windoze is dying....

Windoze is dying....

Post by Ray Chaso » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:40:29



http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
its Xbox out on time.

Guess Windoze must be dying.

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Post by Aaron R. Kulki » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:13:20



> http://www.veryComputer.com/

> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> its Xbox out on time.

> Guess Windoze must be dying.

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    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
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G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

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   ...despite (C) above.

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Windoze is dying....

Post by pip » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:30:24



> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> its Xbox out on time.

> Guess Windoze must be dying.

Has any software company shipped *anything* on time ever in the life of
computing history?
I don't think you'll find XBox won't be shipping.

Talking about games - it's a real shame that more new games are not
released in parallel under Linux. I've just got "Black & White", the new
LionHead game. What a FANTASTIC game so far! The graphics are wonderful
and the AI is second to none! Anyway the annoying thing is that my win
boxen would not run it at a decent speed so I had to install the horror
OS on my unspoiled new Linux box in order to play this wonder of
programming. Annoying, but worth it. btw it took LionHead three years to
craft their masterpiece - perfection takes time (of course I doubt
anyone would claim that delays at Mafia$oft were due to perfection).

 
 
 

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Post by Todd » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:14:41




Quote:> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> its Xbox out on time.

Did you bother reading the article??  There was *nothing* from any official
sources (not even unofficial for that matter) that claimed XBOX would be
late.

Here is a quote from the article:

"As with most rumors, there is little hard evidence backing up the theory
that Microsoft will miss it's fall launch, and Microsoft itself has said
that the Xbox is right on schedule if not slightly ahead of production
goals. "

Quote:> Guess Windoze must be dying.

Dream on.

-Todd

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Post by Ray Chaso » Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:58:19





>> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

>> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
>> its Xbox out on time.

>Did you bother reading the article??  There was *nothing* from any official
>sources (not even unofficial for that matter) that claimed XBOX would be
>late.

Does it matter?  Suppose the Xbox did ship late, or not at all.
Would this have any bearing on the future of Windoze?

No?

So why is Linux "dying" because of what happened to Indrema?

Quote:>Here is a quote from the article:

>"As with most rumors, there is little hard evidence backing up the theory
>that Microsoft will miss it's fall launch, and Microsoft itself has said
>that the Xbox is right on schedule if not slightly ahead of production
>goals. "

>> Guess Windoze must be dying.

>Dream on.

Yes, I realized as soon as I gave the command to post that I should
have included some kind of explicit sarcasm marker.

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Post by Kelsey Bjarnaso » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:29:02





> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> > Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> > its Xbox out on time.

> > Guess Windoze must be dying.

> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642

[snip of stupid sig-bomb]

39 lines of sig, to say absolutely *nothing* in the message itself?  Pretty
weenie.

 
 
 

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Post by Kelsey Bjarnaso » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:30:17




> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> > Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> > its Xbox out on time.

> > Guess Windoze must be dying.

> Has any software company shipped *anything* on time ever in the life of
> computing history?

On time.  On budget.  Works.  Pick two - or one in an emergency. :)
 
 
 

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Post by Bob Hau » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:43:42


On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:29:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason



> [snip of stupid sig-bomb]

> 39 lines of sig, to say absolutely *nothing* in the message itself?  Pretty
> weenie.

That's Aaron for ya.

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Post by Kelsey Bjarnaso » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:31:30



> On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:29:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason


> > [snip of stupid sig-bomb]

> > 39 lines of sig, to say absolutely *nothing* in the message itself?
Pretty
> > weenie.

> That's Aaron for ya.

I know; he's been like this as long as I can recall, but if anything, he
seems to actually be getting worse with time.
 
 
 

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Post by Aaron R. Kulki » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:11:37





> > http://www.veryComputer.com/

> > Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> > its Xbox out on time.

> Did you bother reading the article??  There was *nothing* from any official
> sources (not even unofficial for that matter) that claimed XBOX would be
> late.

Microsoft has NEVER delivered anything on time.

Hope that helps.

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        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   *ery while concurrently committing *ery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

 
 
 

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Post by Bloody Viki » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:02:51


: On time.  On budget.  Works.  Pick two - or one in an emergency. :)

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Post by Todd » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:06:40







> >> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> >> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> >> its Xbox out on time.

> >Did you bother reading the article??  There was *nothing* from any
official
> >sources (not even unofficial for that matter) that claimed XBOX would be
> >late.

> Does it matter?  Suppose the Xbox did ship late, or not at all.
> Would this have any bearing on the future of Windoze?

> No?

> So why is Linux "dying" because of what happened to Indrema?

Ahhhh... now I see the point :)

I think what you are seeing is the Linux hype dying down in the press and
reality starting to hit companies.  Companies that try to make a profit off
of Linux are failing or their stock almost completely devalued.  Some
projects that used Linux are also failing (Indrema), etc.

Not to say that *everything* is going bad... some of the embedded stuff is
very successful.

Quote:> >Here is a quote from the article:

> >"As with most rumors, there is little hard evidence backing up the theory
> >that Microsoft will miss it's fall launch, and Microsoft itself has said
> >that the Xbox is right on schedule if not slightly ahead of production
> >goals. "

> >> Guess Windoze must be dying.

> >Dream on.

> Yes, I realized as soon as I gave the command to post that I should
> have included some kind of explicit sarcasm marker.

Or something that ref`ed the original Indrema article... :)

-Todd

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Post by Tim Hanso » Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:15:48








> > >> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> > >> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> > >> its Xbox out on time.

> > >Did you bother reading the article??  There was *nothing* from any
> official
> > >sources (not even unofficial for that matter) that claimed XBOX would be
> > >late.

> > Does it matter?  Suppose the Xbox did ship late, or not at all.
> > Would this have any bearing on the future of Windoze?

> > No?

> > So why is Linux "dying" because of what happened to Indrema?

> Ahhhh... now I see the point :)

> I think what you are seeing is the Linux hype dying down in the press and
> reality starting to hit companies.  Companies that try to make a profit off
> of Linux are failing or their stock almost completely devalued.  Some
> projects that used Linux are also failing (Indrema), etc.

I agree about some of this but disagree about other things.  The hype
might be dying down, but Linux is moving into the server market faster
than ever.  Moreover, those Linux companies with solid businesses are
weathering the uncertainties of the economy well.  It seems to me the
only ones hurting (more than anybody else who's warning this month) are
companies without a business plan, without revenue, with only the money
from their VCs to burn through.  It should come as no surprise to anyone
that those companies haven't found continuing sugar parents to keep them
alive.  The implication that tough times like these make a statement
about the overall viability of Linux is absurd.

As to Indrema, it hasn't earned a dime in revenue, just spent all the
money raised from mortgaging the farm, and now wants some VC to ignore
Microsoft and Sony.  They may have been born in the dark, but it wasn't
last night.

Quote:> Not to say that *everything* is going bad... some of the embedded stuff is
> very successful.

> > >Here is a quote from the article:

> > >"As with most rumors, there is little hard evidence backing up the theory
> > >that Microsoft will miss it's fall launch, and Microsoft itself has said
> > >that the Xbox is right on schedule if not slightly ahead of production
> > >goals. "

Whether they do or they don't says nothing about Windows.  M$ has an
uphill climb if it wants to avoid turning this into another money hole.
The managers at Sony are _not_ stupid.  Microsoft's hardware advantage
will buy it about six months, and it has zero leverage from its Windows
business.  Experience has shown that M$ doesn't do any better than
anyone else when it can't leverage its monopoly.  If they compound that
by launching late, they're screwed.  That box has to go on the market
and have a gangbuster holiday season, or they will be underdogs from now
on.

Quote:

> > >> Guess Windoze must be dying.

> > >Dream on.

> > Yes, I realized as soon as I gave the command to post that I should
> > have included some kind of explicit sarcasm marker.

> Or something that ref`ed the original Indrema article... :)

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Post by Matthew Gardine » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:12:28


<snype>

As I remember.  When Mozilla shipping date was slipping, Microsoft used
it as the poster child for there "Open Source is a failure, doesn't
deliver on time" etc etc FUD campaign, yet when a Microsoft product
doesn't ship on time, they make up some really lame excuse such as,
"last minute errors found", or, "last minute enhacements needed to be
added".  As I remember, Windows 2000 was meant to be the combining of
Windows 98 and NT into one single source, however, they found out in the
middle of 1998 that they a little "over optimistic" and instead scaled
back their aims, and the rushed job definately shows in the quality of
their product.

Matthew Gardiner

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Post by Martiga » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:44:12



> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/1236215&mode=thread

> Well, well, well.  It seems the almighty Redmond Empire can't get
> its Xbox out on time.

> Guess Windoze must be dying.

If I may, has M$ been able to get anything out on time?  Heck could they
even get the SR's out on time?

So I don't see why Windoze is dying.  

By that analogy then Linux is close to dead; since the (sorry forgot the
name) game counsel that WAS going to run on Linux got scrapped.

 
 
 

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