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My Wife wanted a*style for her journalism unit which
automatically added to the right footer of each page (but not the last
page) , "-more-", and on the last page only, the same right footer
would contain the word "-last-".

I can guarantee that the other student stuck with the bloatasuraus
MS-Word would be doing the above in all their Journo assignments
*by hand*.

Under*it's a one liner :-

\rfoot{\ifthenelse{\value{page}=\pageref{LastPage}}{-ends-}{-more-}}

Cryptic ?
Sure if you don't know Latex, but its not so difficult. Have a look at
the MS Word source some time if you think this is hard!

I added the above line to the preamble for this type of document. So
now all she has to do is worry about content and not *typesetting*.

Yes Erik Lyingbusch, I know*is available for Windows, but few
are aware of it as*won't fill MS's coffers, it will only save the
Windows users a lot of heart attacks.

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    >> Under*it's a one liner :-
    >>
    >> \rfoot{\ifthenelse{\value{page}=\pageref{LastPage}}{-ends-}{-more-}}

    Charmika> Great!

But it doesn't work.  My*(tetex-1.07) complains that "\rfoot" is
undefined.

Moreover, I'm  curious why the  above would work without  defining the
label "LastPage" with any code.

Terry, what  else are in  your preamble?  What \documentclass  are you
using?

(Anyway, I  can do what was  described.  Years ago, a  friend asked me
how to do "Page 3/5" instead of  a plain "Page 3", and I wrote a short
.sty   file  for   him.   Doing   the  conditional   "---ends---"  and
"---more---" is an even simpler task.)

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Apologies for not including the preamble, but I didnt know if anyone
would want it.

Here is the complete template :-
                                oOo

\documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article}
\renewcommand{\thefootnote}{\fnsymbol{footnote}}
\renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{2} % 1.5 spaced
\usepackage{geometry}
\geometry{verbose,a4paper,tmargin=3cm,bmargin=4cm,lmargin=5cm,rmargin=3cm}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}

% here is the "lastpage" style MR Lee.
\usepackage{lastpage}

\usepackage{ifthen}
\pagestyle{fancy}
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}     % Sets no indentation for paragraphs
\setlength{\parskip}{3ex plus 0.5ex minus 0.2ex} % Sets
% the space between paragraphs
\renewcommand{\headrulewidth}{0.0pt} %get rid of top horiz line

\lhead{your name}       % Sets the left header as " your name"
\rhead{protest \large\thepage}
\cfoot{}

% This  compares current page to see if its the lastpage, and if it
% is it places "-ends" in the right footer, else it places
% "-more-"
\rfoot{\ifthenelse{\value{page}=\pageref{LastPage}}{-ends-}{-more-}}

\begin{document}

your document here :)

\end{document}
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With WORD, I can easily cut/paste images into my document from my desktop
or any other app, easily resize and fit things anywhere I want them to be,
easily make tables, easily inser URL links into the document, etc...
and with one click of the button, generate an HTML web page.

This makes up for the better looking*printed documents.

These days, as more publications target the 'web', there is less importance
on the printed version of the document. I use WORD to make reports and
web pages, with lots of diagrams and images and tables in them, WORD makes
this task much easier and simpler than Latex. (and I have used*for
years and written many long documents with it).

WORD= easy, fast, does the job for most common tasks.
Latex= excellent control of output, best printed output, but for many
tasks not worth the effort and extra time.

I would still*for the most important documents, final important reports
that I need to impress someone with (PhD, masters thesis, papers, etc..) but
for day-to-day, you average work report, using word saves times.

If someone can come up with a very easy to use interface to latex, where
I can cut/paste stuff right into it, move diagrams around, resize, etc...
as I can do with WORD and produces*as output, I would use it, but
the few GUI interface apps to*I have tried do not do a good job of
these things yet.

Quote:> With WORD, I can easily cut/paste images into my document from my
> desktop or any other app, easily resize and fit things anywhere I want
> them to be, easily make tables, easily inser URL links into the
> document, etc...  and with one click of the button, generate an HTML
> web page.

Quote:> With WORD, I can easily cut/paste images into my document from my desktop
> or any other app, easily resize and fit things anywhere I want them to
> be,

Also, what's so hard about \resizebox{\includegraphics{...

Quote:> easily make tables, easily inser URL links into the document, etc...

no problem. The best thing is how well that works.

Quote:> and with one click of the button, generate an HTML web page.

Quote:> This makes up for the better looking*printed documents.

Quote:> These days, as more publications target the 'web', there is less importance
> on the printed version of the document.

Quote:> I use WORD to make reports and
> web pages,

Quote:> with lots of diagrams and images and tables in them, WORD makes
> this task much easier and simpler than Latex.

Quote:> (and I have used*for
> years and written many long documents with it).

> WORD= easy, fast, does the job for most common tasks.
> Latex= excellent control of output, best printed output, but for many
> tasks not worth the effort and extra time.

Quote:> I would still*for the most important documents, final important reports
> that I need to impress someone with (PhD, masters thesis, papers, etc..) but
> for day-to-day, you average work report, using word saves times.

-Ed

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/d{def}def/f{/Times findfont s scalefont setfont}d/s{10}d/r{roll}d f 5/m
{moveto}d -1 r 230 350 m 0 1 179{1 index show 88 rotate 4 mul 0 rmoveto}
for /s 15 d f pop 240 420 m 0 1 3 { 4 2 1 r sub -1 r show } for showpage

Quote:> With WORD, I can easily cut/paste images into my document from my desktop
> or any other app, easily resize and fit things anywhere I want them to
> be,

Also, what's so hard about \resizebox{\includegraphics{...

Quote:> easily make tables, easily inser URL links into the document, etc...

no problem. The best thing is how well that works.

Quote:> and with one click of the button, generate an HTML web page.

Quote:> This makes up for the better looking*printed documents.

Quote:> These days, as more publications target the 'web', there is less importance
> on the printed version of the document.

Quote:> I use WORD to make reports and
> web pages,

Quote:> with lots of diagrams and images and tables in them, WORD makes
> this task much easier and simpler than Latex.

Quote:> (and I have used*for
> years and written many long documents with it).

> WORD= easy, fast, does the job for most common tasks.
> Latex= excellent control of output, best printed output, but for many
> tasks not worth the effort and extra time.

Quote:> I would still*for the most important documents, final important reports
> that I need to impress someone with (PhD, masters thesis, papers, etc..) but
> for day-to-day, you average work report, using word saves times.

-Ed

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/d{def}def/f{/Times findfont s scalefont setfont}d/s{10}d/r{roll}d f 5/m
{moveto}d -1 r 230 350 m 0 1 179{1 index show 88 rotate 4 mul 0 rmoveto}
for /s 15 d f pop 240 420 m 0 1 3 { 4 2 1 r sub -1 r show } for showpage

Quote:> If someone can come up with a very easy to use interface to latex, where
> I can cut/paste stuff right into it, move diagrams around, resize, etc...
> as I can do with WORD and produces*as output, I would use it, but
> the few GUI interface apps to*I have tried do not do a good job of
> these things yet.

There are some serious problems with Word:

        o Handles large documents poorly
        o Changes formats from version to version
        o Imported pictures are often impossible to edit (try
          clicking on an embedded Visio 2000 document) and
          diagrams often get messed up by the embedding.
        o Styles sometimes behave inconsistently, making it impossible
          to achieve the effect you want
        o Word is often so helpful that it undoes what you're trying
          to achieve as you do it.

Word is a nice tool for writing memos and documents of modest
size.  For the big stuff, it sucks.

For the little stuff, a Linux word processor (e.g. KWord)
will likely handle your compatibility needs.

Chris

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Quote:> Although*produces 'better' looking documents, it is not
> as productive nor as easy to use as Word for many things.

> With WORD, I can easily cut/paste images into my document from
> my desktop or any other app, easily resize and fit things
> anywhere I want them to be, easily make tables, easily inser
> URL links into the document, etc... and with one click of the
> button, generate an HTML web page.

One of the students at my Wifes class was very interested in
what she used to do her journalism assignment as Win98 was
intermittently refusing to print page numbers, I don't know if it
was Word she was using, but there is a good chance it was.

Quote:

> This makes up for the better looking*printed documents.

> These days, as more publications target the 'web', there is
> less importance on the printed version of the document.

Quote:> I use WORD to make reports and web pages, with lots of diagrams
> and images and tables in them, WORD makes this task much easier
> and simpler than Latex. (and I have used*for years and
> written many long documents with it).

Quote:

> WORD= easy, fast, does the job for most common tasks.  Latex=
> excellent control of output, best printed output, but for many
> tasks not worth the effort and extra time.

Quote:

> I would still*for the most important documents, final
> important reports that I need to impress someone with (PhD,
> masters thesis, papers, etc..) but for day-to-day, you average
> work report, using word saves times.

Quote:

> If someone can come up with a very easy to use interface to
> latex, where I can cut/paste stuff right into it, move diagrams
> around, resize, etc... as I can do with WORD

Quote:> and produces*as output, I would use it, but the few GUI
> interface apps to*I have tried do not do a good job of
> these things yet.

However "Grokking the Gimp" has done 30 megabytes worth of it,
and the author seemed to like it.

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     o  poor compatibility between MSWord versions
     o  feature bloat
     o  no ability to plug/unplug MSword features
     o  proprietary, secret file format

There are old documents in TeX/LaTeX which are still
readable/usable today.  They will be in 100 years as well, when
we will be wired up with VLF detectors in our shoes to pick up
digital*documents which we will read on flexible displays
tattooed on the backs of our webbed hands.

Charmika

I am not saying WORD produces better looking printed documents than latex,
I am saying that WORD is good enough for the typical needs of daily workers,
and does save time since it is easier to use for most people and it meets
the needs for most common daily tasks.

Peter
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the day they start making vacuum cleaners.

I tried Lyx. But last time I tried it, I could not drag and drop images
from the desktop right into it. I want to be able to cut/past stuff right
into the document.

Quote:> There are some serious problems with Word:

>    o Handles large documents poorly

Quote:>    o Changes formats from version to version

Quote:>    o Imported pictures are often impossible to edit (try
>      clicking on an embedded Visio 2000 document) and
>      diagrams often get messed up by the embedding.

Quote:>    o Styles sometimes behave inconsistently, making it impossible
>      to achieve the effect you want

Quote:> Word is a nice tool for writing memos and documents of modest
> size.  For the big stuff, it sucks.

Quote:> For the little stuff, a Linux word processor (e.g. KWord)
> will likely handle your compatibility needs.

Here's a sample:
<p><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span lang=EN-AU
 style='font-family: Arial;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>
 E-</span></b><st1:stockticker><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>
 <span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
 New Roman"'>MAIL</span></b></st1:stockticker><b
 style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span lang=EN-AU>:</span></b><span
 lang=EN-AU><span style='mso-tab-count:2'><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0>
 <A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0><A0> </span><a

 </span></p>

That "HTML" produces the text E-MAIL, some space, and a hyperlink to
send an email.  It doesn't even use an actual HTML table -- the other
text in the same section does not line up properly.

Rendering it as text using links results in nearly 12kb.  It doesn't
lose any information; another kilobyte or two of HTML would produce
the same exact same -- or even, better -- document.
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