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30 Oct 1996 10:28:35 GMT the creation of linux-...@lege.com
was announced at comp.os.linux.announce.
Now my friend Dwight Johnson tells me that:
Hi Leif,
There's some pretty active business discussion happening on
linux-list and it occurs to me that quite a few Linux users
have never heard of the linux-biz list.
I think a new announcement of it on comp.os.linux.announce
would bring in some new blood. We have experienced some
terrific synergy of minds on the list. Why not share it
further?
Dwight
I think he is right. I have done so. And I also post here
at comp.os.linux.advocacy. Here's some of the text from the
original announcement way-back-when (last year):
<original announcement text>
Questions this lists intend to deal with or has dealt with include...
* How does one insure the maintenance, longevity,
widespread support, and continued enhancements of
the product?
* What is effective business computing ?
And how might you go about it ?
* Allen Francom <afran...@numedics.transport.com> says...
Let me start by saying, business solutions are most
effective when, rather than buying something off the
shelf, you look at the requirements, immediate, and
long term, and then design and implement the appropriate
solution. (See where that gets us...)
And for example, I am aware of many businesses that have
nothing but dumb terminals and generic text printers, and
they are quite profitable and successful. (Because they
don't need Windows ?, Because they don't have Windows ?,
Because they designed the right solution to their exact
problem ? )
* Mark Hamstra <mhams...@sullivan.bentley.com> says...
This is one of the most significant underappreciated
facts of business computing: A solution that does just
what you want and nothing more (with the exception of
providing a flexible future expansion path) is often a
much more productive and affordable solution than a 'more
powerful/state-of-the-art' solution.
... the biggest problem with complete Windows-based PCs
on every desktop is the mind boggling support and
administrative costs associated with this setup.
If you can get the job done with dumb terminals and a
couple of centralized servers, then by all means do so:
you'll save enormous amounts of time and money over the
long haul.
Similarly, if you can get the job done with X terminals
or PCs converted to Linux-based X terminals, do it: not
only will you save money on initial hardware and software
purchase costs, but you will also save long term on
administrative costs, see potentially better performance
than the 'Windows on every desktop' approach, and have
much better options for future expansions as your needs
change.
Many of the same issues that are driving the push toward
simple Network Computers at the personal level also apply
to business computing. Stated quite simply and bluntly:
Windows PCs on everydesktop is not an optimal solution.
* Alan Shutko <a...@wydo125.wustl.edu> says...
This may be the strongest point in favor of free (ie,
source available) software. You _cannot_ ensure that a
company will continue to maintain, support, etc software.
Many people have been stuck when a company ceased to
support software which they depend on.
On the other hand if you have source, you can maintain it
yourself or pay someone else to do so (ie, Cygnus). It
then ceases to be "no-cost" software, but it is still
free in terms of licensing and source.
This list was born off the RedHat list, but is *not* confined to any
particular flavor of Linux.
</original announcement text>
Here's the subscription/unsubscription procedure
Write to
linux-biz-requ...@lege.com
Make *SURE* the subject line reads (the body is ignored):
(un)subscribe ***YOUR***EMail linux-...@lege.com
Examples:
subscribe verysm...@canread.com linux-...@lege.com
unsubscribe verysm...@canread.com linux-...@lege.com
All instructions for subscribe/unsubscribe are at www.lege.com!
Here's the URL's for existing archives...
URL: http://www.lege.com/linux-biz.html
That URL points at these files...
http://www.lege.com/linux-biz-24_Dec_1996.gz.bin
http://www.lege.com/linux-biz-22_Sep_1997.gz.bin
http://www.lege.com/linux-biz.gz.bin
These archives should be saved locally as normal file-folders
e.g. for pine (once uncompressed). This is one way:
gzip -dc < /tmp/linux-biz-24_Dec_1996.gz.bin \
>> ~/mail/linux-biz-archive
gzip -dc < /tmp/linux-biz-22_Sep_1997.gz.bin \
>> ~/mail/linux-biz-archive
gzip -dc < /tmp/linux-biz.gz.bin \
>> ~/mail/linux-biz-archive
They can be viewed using less, emacs, pine or several other mail
user agents. We are around 270 - 280 subscribers, it usually
goes between 273 and 276 with a few leaving and a few coming in
each week. This has been the membership toll for most of 1997.
We don't want a lot of noise, but have long periods of silence
and intense periods when we debate some subject. Most of us have
some small business in the Linux area, some bigger some smaller.
You are welcome to liten in, and if you believe you can contribute
you are welcome to do so. But please read at least the last third
of the archives first! (http://www.lege.com/linux-biz.gz.bin.)
Thanks for listening!
__________________________________________________________________
Leif Erlingsson Tel +46 8 604-0995
DATA LEGE Fax +46 8 605-2551
Glavagatan 33 URL http://www.lege.com
123 71 Farsta, Sweden Email mailto:l...@lege.com
__________________________________________________________________
I remember the past. I am not doomed to buy Microsoft products.
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