Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
Background info:
OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
Draw your on conculstions. :-)
by pip » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:29:02
> Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
> Background info:
> OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
> http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
> http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
> Draw your on conculstions. :-)
So some M$ sites run Linux and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
world coming to these days ?
I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common sense!!
Doh!
by Chad Myer » Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:50:04
> > Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
> > Background info:
> > OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
> > http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
> > http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
> > Draw your on conculstions. :-)
> Oh dear. How *stupid* can the people behind OSDN be to do this ?
> So some M$ sites run Linux
Of course, when it comes to business, use a business-class OS andQuote:> and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
> world coming to these days ?
> I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common sense!!
> Doh!
-c
by The Ghost In The Machi » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:05:02
>> Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
>> Background info:
>> OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
>> http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
>> http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
>> Draw your on conculstions. :-)
>Oh dear. How *stupid* can the people behind OSDN be to do this ?
>So some M$ sites run Linux and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
>world coming to these days ?
>I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common sense!!
>Doh!
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:50:33 GMT
(Side note: for those on another thread, it set a session cookie as well:
Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDGGGGGRWK=DPFLDPLBLOADAJLAAHGCAEGO; path=/
I don't know if this cookie is persistent or not.
Side note #2: jobs.osdn.com's clock is about 5 minutes slow.... :-)
Side note #3: www.osdn.com doesn't process HEAD properly, and
instead dumps out the entire page. This is a little weird,
considering it's running Apache -- there is the possibility of
a malfunctioning servlet, however. All in all, looks like osdn
needs to do a little more study on the mechanics of web site
design -- I can't speak for their webpage, because I used telnet. :-)
To be fair, yahoo has similar issues, although I'm not sure what
webserver they use.)
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by pip » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:20:02
Apache works under win98SE quite well :)Quote:> I can confirm that jobs.osdn.com is running version 5.0 of IIS.
> The wisdom of doing so is interesting -- but one must also bear in
> mind that open source can run on Windows as well as Unix, with the
> appropriate #ifdefs (and possibly some caveats as well :-) ).
Or it could be a PERL programming goof (I notice mod_perl).Quote:> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:50:33 GMT
> Side note #3: www.osdn.com doesn't process HEAD properly, and
> instead dumps out the entire page. This is a little weird,
> considering it's running Apache -- there is the possibility of
> a malfunctioning servlet, however.
So the question is: why on earth does an opensource web site run IIS ?
Surly they know that if they are "outed" it will cause embarrassment. I
remember the fuss over the Linux Journal website (again they contracted
out their sales). It is such bad PR and really quite an insult to the
community!
To make matters worse - have you noticed at the bottom of the page is
the image with the text "Powered By VA Linux systems" ? That's just the
icing on the cake.
:(
by Michael Veste » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:33:23
> > > Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
> > > Background info:
> > > OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
> > > http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
> > > http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
> > > Draw your on conculstions. :-)
> > Oh dear. How *stupid* can the people behind OSDN be to do this ?
> > So some M$ sites run Linux
> Really? Which ones?
> > and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
> > world coming to these days ?
> > I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common sense!!
> > Doh!
> Of course, when it comes to business, use a business-class OS and
> web server: IIS.
> -c
by Chad Myer » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:08:07
> > > > Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
> > > > Background info:
> > > > OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
> > > > http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
> > > > http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
> > > > Draw your on conculstions. :-)
> > > Oh dear. How *stupid* can the people behind OSDN be to do this ?
> > > So some M$ sites run Linux
> > Really? Which ones?
> > > and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
> > > world coming to these days ?
> > > I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common sense!!
> > > Doh!
> > Of course, when it comes to business, use a business-class OS and
> > web server: IIS.
> > -c
> Hardly a good time to be promoting IIS. Code Red is about to strike
> again. IIS is good for business. The business of technical support since
> this product needs plenty.
According to what I read about the next round, the newest code red
problem is system clocks which aren't set correctly.
That's even worse.
For those of you who still have your head too far in the sand,
Unix is no stranger to worms that take advantage of exploits like
these.
-c
by pip » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:20:08
Nope - IIS is obviously not to blame at all.
by Michael Veste » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:48:34
> > > > > Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
> > > > > Background info:
> > > > > OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
> > > > > http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
> > > > > http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
> > > > > Draw your on conculstions. :-)
> > > > Oh dear. How *stupid* can the people behind OSDN be to do this ?
> > > > So some M$ sites run Linux
> > > Really? Which ones?
> > > > and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
> > > > world coming to these days ?
> > > > I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common sense!!
> > > > Doh!
> > > Of course, when it comes to business, use a business-class OS and
> > > web server: IIS.
> > > -c
> > Hardly a good time to be promoting IIS. Code Red is about to strike
> > again. IIS is good for business. The business of technical support since
> > this product needs plenty.
> Actually, that's quite ignorant of you to say. The patch was available
> over a month ago. The problem is not IIS, the problem is lazy sysadmins.
> According to what I read about the next round, the newest code red
> problem is system clocks which aren't set correctly.
> That's even worse.
> For those of you who still have your head too far in the sand,
> Unix is no stranger to worms that take advantage of exploits like
> these.
> -c
We have a full time administrator just to keep a mere 5 IIS servers up
and running. It is a big job keeping track of all the patches for
losedos, IIS and all the add ins. And you have to keep in mind that a
patch may fix something but break something else. Our Unix administrator
is only part time and his servers support more than 50 times as many
sites. I would not blame the losedos administrator, he is trying to
empty the ocean with a spoon.
Didn't the last big Unix worm do its thing in 1987?
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by Michael Veste » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 04:04:38
> > Actually, that's quite ignorant of you to say. The patch was available
> > over a month ago. The problem is not IIS, the problem is lazy sysadmins.
> So you are claiming that a security bug in IIS is the system
> administrators fault ?
> Nope - IIS is obviously not to blame at all.
1. Blame the hardware.
2. Blmae the user.
3. Blame the sysadmin.
But the software is perfect and each new version is more perfect than
the one before. This is standard winvocate doctrine.
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by Fuld » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 05:03:04
> So you are claiming that a security bug in IIS is the system
> administrators fault ?
> Nope - IIS is obviously not to blame at all.
You cant really contest that can you?
Cheers
by Chad Myer » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 06:58:51
> > > > > > Well, I'm not sure if you will find it funny, but:
> > > > > > Background info:
> > > > > > OSDN - Open Source Developer Network (Similar to MSDN)
> > > > > > http://www.osdn.com/ - Run linux.
> > > > > > http://jobs.osdn.com/ - Run Win2K.
> > > > > > Draw your on conculstions. :-)
> > > > > Oh dear. How *stupid* can the people behind OSDN be to do this ?
> > > > > So some M$ sites run Linux
> > > > Really? Which ones?
> > > > > and some Linux sites run IIS. What is the
> > > > > world coming to these days ?
> > > > > I think these sites have contracted out... contracted out common
sense!!
> > > > > Doh!
> > > > Of course, when it comes to business, use a business-class OS and
> > > > web server: IIS.
> > > > -c
> > > Hardly a good time to be promoting IIS. Code Red is about to strike
> > > again. IIS is good for business. The business of technical support since
> > > this product needs plenty.
> > Actually, that's quite ignorant of you to say. The patch was available
> > over a month ago. The problem is not IIS, the problem is lazy sysadmins.
> > According to what I read about the next round, the newest code red
> > problem is system clocks which aren't set correctly.
> > That's even worse.
> > For those of you who still have your head too far in the sand,
> > Unix is no stranger to worms that take advantage of exploits like
> > these.
> > -c
> The standard losedos response:
> 1. Blame the hardware.
> 2. Blame the user.
> 3. Blame the sysadmin.
Now I suppose you're going to tell me that the problem
shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Shall I show you a list of Unix and Linux exploits that work
in the same manner?
-c
by wgaf » Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:06:39
> > > Actually, that's quite ignorant of you to say. The patch was available
> > > over a month ago. The problem is not IIS, the problem is lazy
sysadmins.
> > So you are claiming that a security bug in IIS is the system
> > administrators fault ?
> > Nope - IIS is obviously not to blame at all.
> Like I said before
> 1. Blame the hardware.
> 2. Blmae the user.
> 3. Blame the sysadmin.
> But the software is perfect and each new version is more perfect than
> the one before. This is standard winvocate doctrine.
Could be worse. When all the millions of people trying to set up
Windoze 95 finally get it working (unless they give up and get a
Mac, of course -which many have apparantly done(!)), we might be
in for a deluge of idiot MSN users. Or does it not have Usenet yet?
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