Very Computer

I recently went on holiday. ........Yes thanks, I had a lovely time. When I
got back I turned on my machine ( Mandrake 8.1 IBM 300GL 450MHz 160ish Mb
20G). Obviously I did something to it before I left, cos it took ages to
start, (esp httpd) and failed to start proftpd & squid.

Having started and logged in as me or root, if I open Konqueror, for
example, it can take up to 5min to open. A few apps open normally , notably
Mandrake Control Center but most take ages. I've looked at the processes
running and the cache and drives seem to not be overloaded (I may be wrong).
Once they're running, all the applications run at normal speed.

The main thing I've done recently is try to add a mysql database and mysql
user and delete another mysql user (the latter not very successfully).

Trouble is, I'm a bit of a Linux novice and have NO IDEA where to start
looking.

I keep having to reinstall instead of learning how to resolve problems,
mainly because the only help I can get assumes I'm expert. So, if you're
feeling extra helpful..........please spell it out in easy words?  ;-)

Cheers

Greg

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:12:18 -0500, Noh Way Jose claimed:

Quote:> I recently went on holiday. ........Yes thanks, I had a lovely time. When I
> got back I turned on my machine ( Mandrake 8.1 IBM 300GL 450MHz 160ish Mb
> 20G). Obviously I did something to it before I left, cos it took ages to
> start, (esp httpd) and failed to start proftpd & squid.

> Having started and logged in as me or root, if I open Konqueror, for
> example, it can take up to 5min to open. A few apps open normally , notably
> Mandrake Control Center but most take ages. I've looked at the processes
> running and the cache and drives seem to not be overloaded (I may be wrong).
> Once they're running, all the applications run at normal speed.

> The main thing I've done recently is try to add a mysql database and mysql
> user and delete another mysql user (the latter not very successfully).

> Trouble is, I'm a bit of a Linux novice and have NO IDEA where to start
> looking.

> I keep having to reinstall instead of learning how to resolve problems,
> mainly because the only help I can get assumes I'm expert. So, if you're
> feeling extra helpful..........please spell it out in easy words?  ;-)

> Cheers

> Greg

Does your hostname look alright (echo $HOSTNAME)? That sounds indicative
of loosing it (daemons such as squid get very, very cranky when the
hostname is missing). Also (this may be poor memory) it seems in my gray
matter that there was a problem with some KDE processes when the hostname
was hosed.

Have you upgraded KDE recently? Particularly, did you do it and not reboot
since, and the behavior you're describing happened at the first boot
since the upgrade? I've head of that happening with KDE and upgrades not
working out quite right.

That's all of the ideas I have for the time being. I'll mull it over some
more.

--
There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Microsoft's Knowledgebase.

After takin' a swig o' grog, Noh Way Jose belched out this bit o' wisdom:

Quote:> I recently went on holiday. ........Yes thanks, I had a lovely time. When I
> got back I turned on my machine ( Mandrake 8.1 IBM 300GL 450MHz 160ish Mb
> 20G). Obviously I did something to it before I left, cos it took ages to
> start, (esp httpd) and failed to start proftpd & squid.

> Having started and logged in as me or root, if I open Konqueror, for
> example, it can take up to 5min to open. A few apps open normally , notably
> Mandrake Control Center but most take ages. I've looked at the processes
> running and the cache and drives seem to not be overloaded (I may be wrong).
> Once they're running, all the applications run at normal speed.

> The main thing I've done recently is try to add a mysql database and mysql
> user and delete another mysql user (the latter not very successfully).

> Trouble is, I'm a bit of a Linux novice and have NO IDEA where to start
> looking.

> I keep having to reinstall instead of learning how to resolve problems,
> mainly because the only help I can get assumes I'm expert. So, if you're
> feeling extra helpful..........please spell it out in easy words?  ;-)

Run "/sbin/ifconfig" and see if your network card is up.

--

Thanks SM,

I'd mucked around with the domain, adding 'uc' ie 'atlantic.uc'. Removing
the 'uc' domain suffix seemed to do the trick, after a reboot. Now it's just
'atlantic'.

BTW. Any clue why trying to use Konqueror (the only method I've tried, so
far) to browse the network, returns:
"Could not connect to host localhost" ?
My /etc/hosts file contains "127.0.0.1     localhost     localhost"

Or should I post this as a new item?

Cheers,

Greg

Quote:> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:12:18 -0500, Noh Way Jose claimed:

> > I recently went on holiday. ........Yes thanks, I had a lovely time.
When I
> > got back I turned on my machine ( Mandrake 8.1 IBM 300GL 450MHz 160ish
Mb
> > 20G). Obviously I did something to it before I left, cos it took ages to
> > start, (esp httpd) and failed to start proftpd & squid.

> > Having started and logged in as me or root, if I open Konqueror, for
> > example, it can take up to 5min to open. A few apps open normally ,
notably
> > Mandrake Control Center but most take ages. I've looked at the processes
> > running and the cache and drives seem to not be overloaded (I may be
wrong).
> > Once they're running, all the applications run at normal speed.

> > The main thing I've done recently is try to add a mysql database and
mysql
> > user and delete another mysql user (the latter not very successfully).

> > Trouble is, I'm a bit of a Linux novice and have NO IDEA where to start
> > looking.

> > I keep having to reinstall instead of learning how to resolve problems,
> > mainly because the only help I can get assumes I'm expert. So, if you're
> > feeling extra helpful..........please spell it out in easy words?  ;-)

> > Cheers

> > Greg

> Does your hostname look alright (echo $HOSTNAME)? That sounds indicative
> of loosing it (daemons such as squid get very, very cranky when the
> hostname is missing). Also (this may be poor memory) it seems in my gray
> matter that there was a problem with some KDE processes when the hostname
> was hosed.

> Have you upgraded KDE recently? Particularly, did you do it and not reboot
> since, and the behavior you're describing happened at the first boot
> since the upgrade? I've head of that happening with KDE and upgrades not
> working out quite right.

> That's all of the ideas I have for the time being. I'll mull it over some
> more.

> --
> There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Microsoft's
Knowledgebase.

Thanks SM,

I'd mucked around with the domain, adding 'uc' ie 'atlantic.uc'. Removing
the 'uc' domain suffix seemed to do the trick, after a reboot. Now it's just
'atlantic'.

BTW. Any clue why trying to use Konqueror (the only method I've tried, so
far) to browse the network, returns:
"Could not connect to host localhost" ?
My /etc/hosts file contains "127.0.0.1     localhost     localhost"

Or should I post this as a new item?

Cheers,

Greg

Quote:> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:12:18 -0500, Noh Way Jose claimed:

> > I recently went on holiday. ........Yes thanks, I had a lovely time.
When I
> > got back I turned on my machine ( Mandrake 8.1 IBM 300GL 450MHz 160ish
Mb
> > 20G). Obviously I did something to it before I left, cos it took ages to
> > start, (esp httpd) and failed to start proftpd & squid.

> > Having started and logged in as me or root, if I open Konqueror, for
> > example, it can take up to 5min to open. A few apps open normally ,
notably
> > Mandrake Control Center but most take ages. I've looked at the processes
> > running and the cache and drives seem to not be overloaded (I may be
wrong).
> > Once they're running, all the applications run at normal speed.

> > The main thing I've done recently is try to add a mysql database and
mysql
> > user and delete another mysql user (the latter not very successfully).

> > Trouble is, I'm a bit of a Linux novice and have NO IDEA where to start
> > looking.

> > I keep having to reinstall instead of learning how to resolve problems,
> > mainly because the only help I can get assumes I'm expert. So, if you're
> > feeling extra helpful..........please spell it out in easy words?  ;-)

> > Cheers

> > Greg

> Does your hostname look alright (echo $HOSTNAME)? That sounds indicative
> of loosing it (daemons such as squid get very, very cranky when the
> hostname is missing). Also (this may be poor memory) it seems in my gray
> matter that there was a problem with some KDE processes when the hostname
> was hosed.

> Have you upgraded KDE recently? Particularly, did you do it and not reboot
> since, and the behavior you're describing happened at the first boot
> since the upgrade? I've head of that happening with KDE and upgrades not
> working out quite right.

> That's all of the ideas I have for the time being. I'll mull it over some
> more.

> --
> There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Microsoft's
Knowledgebase.

Something's wrong there. AFAIK, it isn't good practice to have both the
domain and the host name set to the same name ("localhost"), or at least
it's potentionally confusing. I see no reason why you can't just enter in
hosts:

   127.0.0.1 localhost
   192.168.0.1 myhost.atlantic.uc myhost

Of course, I'm using that static IP from the Class C range as an example.
Are you using a static address from one of the "private" ranges? Those are
10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x, or 192.168.x.x.

Another thing to consider is: Do you have a network card installed in the
machine? It that network interface using dhcp, i.e. dynamically assigned IP
address?

--
Bones

On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 05:44:34 -0500, Noh Way Jose claimed:

Quote:> Thanks SM,

> I'd mucked around with the domain, adding 'uc' ie 'atlantic.uc'.
> Removing the 'uc' domain suffix seemed to do the trick, after a reboot.
> Now it's just 'atlantic'.

> BTW. Any clue why trying to use Konqueror (the only method I've tried,
> so far) to browse the network, returns:
> "Could not connect to host localhost" ? My /etc/hosts file contains
> "127.0.0.1     localhost     localhost"

The entry looks weird:

127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain   localhost

That's mine. Not sure about that quote on the second entry of yours, but
I'd bet that has something to do with it. And the full host/domain should
be localhost.localdomain.

KDE is touchy, very touchy, about some of the things it runs unless it
finds that or another hostname that it's satisfied with. Some things may
continue working, but most just die right away. I remember konqueror as
being one of the more sensitive (I don't use KDE, just some apps, so I'm
basing a lot of memory).

--
The box said Windows XP or better. So I installed linux.

Datagram from Noh Way Jose incoming on netlink socket

Quote:

> BTW. Any clue why trying to use Konqueror (the only method I've tried, so
> far) to browse the network, returns:
> "Could not connect to host localhost" ?

Install&configure&run Samba...

-Ilari
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Linux LK_Perkele_IV9 2.4.18 #8 SMP Thu Mar 14 19:42:25 EET 2002 i686 unknown
 12:00am  up 3 days, 11:38,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:01:49 +0000, Ilari Liusvaara assert()ed:

Mine does the same thing, and I do have Samba installed (and working properly).