Very Computer

Anyway, he comes over and I am going to show him this awesome "new"
operating system called "lye-nucks" (he's a Jeff Foxworthy type, I refer
to him as a red-tek).  So I'm giving him the grand tour, concentrating on
those things that he does himself and loading up the corresponding linux
version.  MS Office..boom, Star Office.  Outlook...boom, Evolution.
IE...boom, Netscape, Opera, Mozilla.  Multimedia, Games, configuration,
etc.  I show him some scripts that I wrote and demonstrated how easy it is
to write scripts by throwing one together for him real quick. After this,
I start to show him the really cool features like multiple
workspaces/desktops.

Keep in mind that I am working on my just rebuilt system cuz it's faster
and I wanted to impress him, but I was having problems with the video card
settings at the time (I've found the problem and resolved it since).  So
I'm showing him how I can switch between Windows Managers and...screeech!
System deadlock, no mouse, no keyboard, nothing.

I think I must have had an inkling right then of what Mr. Gates went
through at the unveiling of Win95.  I was sweating and thinking This is
not good, not good at all. Then he says, "Well just reboot the darn thang
and show me some more!"

It dawned on me that he is so used to system lockups and reboots using
Win95 all the time that he's not finding any of this out of the ordinary
and is actually still impressed with what he was shown.  Of course I
explained to him that this was not at all the norm for Linux and that I
was having hardware issues...but he didn't care, he had me burn him off a
copy of Red Hat and away he went.

Just an amusing anecdote I wanted to share with you all.

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"Great spirits have always encountered * opposition from mediocre minds." -- Albert Einstein

Quote:>Keep in mind that I am working on my just rebuilt system cuz it's faster
>and I wanted to impress him, but I was having problems with the video card
>settings at the time (I've found the problem and resolved it since).  So
>I'm showing him how I can switch between Windows Managers and...screeech!
>System deadlock, no mouse, no keyboard, nothing.

>I think I must have had an inkling right then of what Mr. Gates went
>through at the unveiling of Win95.  I was sweating and thinking This is
>not good, not good at all. Then he says, "Well just reboot the darn thang
>and show me some more!"

>It dawned on me that he is so used to system lockups and reboots using
>Win95 all the time that he's not finding any of this out of the ordinary
>and is actually still impressed with what he was shown.  Of course I

Terry

<snip good story>

Quote:> operating system called "lye-nucks" (he's a Jeff Foxworthy type, I refer
> to him as a red-tek).  

I am a US Southern myself with the Foxworthy (Southern commedian) accent.  
Since I call Charlie Brown's pal Li-nus, and Linux was created by a Linus
(I don't know how they say it in Finland, though), I just naturally
pronounced it lye-nucks.  I had read the word literally thousands of time,
but never once heard it pronounced.  Though there's actually a newsgroup
called roadrunner.sc.linux (roadrunner is my cable ISP here in SC) I don't
personally know another Linux user.

Then, I went to a computer store looking for a new video card, and the
salesman asked if he could help me.  I said I was considering a new video
card (I never did get one), but wanted it to work with lye-nucks.  He said
"I don't know anything about Lin-ux" and walked away.  

I suddendly realized that I was in bed with this fantastic babe of an OS
and didn't even know how to say her name.

Thanks again.  Lin-ux it is.

Bo
"Sounding his barbaric [y'all] over the rooftops of the world."  Sorry
Whitman

   Funny. I have a friend of mine, that don't want to use
Linux no matter how many things I show him. He's a
programmer, and have used computers with me since
we were 12 years old, he's a clever man and no dumb
at all with computers, he just don't like Linux, and he has
no intelligent reason to be so. He even get impressed with
some things I show him, but I can't learn the cause that
sticks him to his Windows ... well I should say to their
Windows, 'cause he has got Windows Me, 2000 and XP
in the same machine ... can't guess what for ... I have
even made a PHP+MySQL database for his DivX
library :-) but he insists in sending me the list in Access
format.

Quote:> rapskat went insane and wrote the following on his bedroom wall with an
> old crayon:

>>Keep in mind that I am working on my just rebuilt system cuz it's faster
>>and I wanted to impress him, but I was having problems with the video
>>card settings at the time (I've found the problem and resolved it
>>since).  So I'm showing him how I can switch between Windows Managers
>>and...screeech! System deadlock, no mouse, no keyboard, nothing.

>>I think I must have had an inkling right then of what Mr. Gates went
>>through at the unveiling of Win95.  I was sweating and thinking This is
>>not good, not good at all. Then he says, "Well just reboot the darn
>>thang and show me some more!"

>>It dawned on me that he is so used to system lockups and reboots using
>>Win95 all the time that he's not finding any of this out of the ordinary
>>and is actually still impressed with what he was shown.  Of course I

> Was it actually locked up ?
> Could you telnet or ssh in ?

> Terry

If you know of any way to recover from an apparent X-server deadlock like
that, please let me know, cuz I hate rebooting :-)

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Microsoft - This program has performed many illegal activities and will eventually be shut down

Quote:>> Was it actually locked up ?
>> Could you telnet or ssh in ?

>> Terry

>I'm sure it wasn't completely locked, though I can't verify that cuz I'm
>not running telnet, ssh or a VNC Server on this system.  I had a download
>going on and I did notice that the NIC activity lights were still blinking
>away though.

Quote:> To tell the truth, I panicked at the moment given the
>circumstances and didn't think recovery beyond the obvious.

Quote:>If you know of any way to recover from an apparent X-server deadlock like
>that, please let me know, cuz I hate rebooting :-)

Terry
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.......... (Sig based on an original work by Jim Richardson) ...........
Windows box
 *click*
    "Thank you for  installing annoying email trojan, have a nice day"

Linux box
 *click*
    "Hey, please chmod me, and then run me, ok?"
        "c'mon, s'important"
            "Hey! I am talking to you pal!"
                "what! don't look at my code !!!!!!!"
........................................................................

<snip>

Quote:>> To tell the truth, I panicked at the moment given the
>>circumstances and didn't think recovery beyond the obvious.

> Understandable, especially if one has a Windows background.

Anyhow, thanks. :-)

<snip>

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WHEN A MAN BELIEVES IN ANOTHER MAN, HE WILL EVENTUALLY BE LET DOWN
 WHEN A MAN BELIEVES IN HIMSELF, HE WILL NEVER BE DISAPPOINTED.

Great spirits have always encountered * opposition from mediocre minds. -- Albert Einstien

Quote:

> Then, I went to a computer store looking for a new video card, and the
> salesman asked if he could help me.  I said I was considering a new video
> card (I never did get one), but wanted it to work with lye-nucks.  He said
> "I don't know anything about Lin-ux" and walked away.

> I suddendly realized that I was in bed with this fantastic babe of an OS
> and didn't even know how to say her name.

> Thanks again.  Lin-ux it is.

> Bo
> "Sounding his barbaric [y'all] over the rooftops of the world."  Sorry
> Whitman

kw

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        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.

Quote:> Error Log for Sat, 02 Feb 2002 01:44:15 -0500: segfault in module "Terry
> Porter" - dump details are as follows...
>> Was it actually locked up ?
>> Could you telnet or ssh in ?

> I'm sure it wasn't completely locked, though I can't verify that cuz
> I'm not running telnet, ssh or a VNC Server on this system. I had a
> download going on and I did notice that the NIC activity lights were
> still blinking away though.

Quote:> If you know of any way to recover from an apparent X-server deadlock
> like that, please let me know, cuz I hate rebooting :-)

cheers,

     /Johan

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 12:06pm  up 52 days, 18:24,  6 users,  load average: 1.17, 1.25, 1.17
$ cat /dev/bollocks
streamline user-centric platforms

Quote:> for your host, this happens for example if you have a non-switched
> network or it's a broadcast. Some cards just need to have power
> switched on to notice traffic and light diodes accordingly,
> regardless of drivers being initialized or running.

>> If you know of any way to recover from an apparent X-server
>> deadlock like that, please let me know, cuz I hate rebooting :-)

> I'm assuming you did try the ctrl-alt-backspace thing since you said
> the keyboard wasn't responding.

     /Johan

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  1:09pm  up 52 days, 19:27,  6 users,  load average: 1.02, 1.16, 1.17
$ cat /dev/bollocks
incubate web-enabled schemas