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by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 00:28:31

My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever and
install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the RPM for
XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for dependencies. So I
go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric and
dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the system.
So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at all.
Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when it
connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it looks for
some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a Mandrake
9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback there
either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server or a
firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

by **Rick** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 01:30:25

> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever
> and install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the
> RPM for XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for
> dependencies. So I go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that
> look like libric and dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole
> deal and hung the system. So after I reboot it will not play any
> multimedia files at all. Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install
> Mandrake 8, but when it connects itself through my internet connection
> it decides that it is Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer
> thing again it looks for some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2.
> But I do not have a Mandrake 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So
> no multimedia playback there either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It
> should remain a server or a firewall because it cannot be used as an
> operating system.

That's a pile of BS. MDK 8.2 installed very well on my compaq laptop and
old clone tower. And it knows it is 8.2 6.0, 7.0 and 8.0 all did the
same on the laptop.

Quote:
> Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

--
Rick

by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 01:29:58

> That's a pile of BS. MDK 8.2 installed very well on my compaq laptop and
> old clone tower. And it knows it is 8.2 6.0, 7.0 and 8.0 all did the
> same on the laptop.

The strange part is that I once had a Linux setup that could actually play
MP3,avi,MPEG clips. These newer destructobutions are a step backwards.

by **Jon Portno** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:14:17

> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever and
> install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the RPM for
> XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for dependencies. So I
> go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric and
> dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the system.
> So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at all.
> Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when it
> connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
> Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it looks for
> some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a Mandrake
> 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback there
> either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server or a
> firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

> Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

Please learn how to use the enter key, if your Windows client supports it.
It'd really make it easier to read about your idiocy.

--
Jon Portnoy

by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:15:02

> > My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> > perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever
and
> > install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the RPM
for
> > XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for dependencies.
So I
> > go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric and
> > dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the
system.
> > So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at all.
> > Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when it
> > connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
> > Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it looks
for
> > some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a
Mandrake
> > 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback there
> > either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server or a
> > firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

> > Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

> Please learn how to use the enter key, if your Windows client supports it.
> It'd really make it easier to read about your idiocy.

> --
> Jon Portnoy

If I could ever find the right form of Linux and the right rpm's and the
right order to install them so they actually work you will not see any more
idiocy.

by **Tom Hamilto** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:40:58

> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever
> and
> install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the RPM for
> XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for dependencies. So
> I go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric and
> dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the
> system. So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at all.
> Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when it
> connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
> Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it looks for
> some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a
> Mandrake
> 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback there
> either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server or a
> firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

> Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

This is known as "Redhat Hell" My Suse 8.1 has XMMS working out of the box.

by **D?üG.** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:46:49

> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever and
> install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the RPM for
> XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for dependencies. So I
> go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric and
> dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the system.
> So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at all.
> Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when it
> connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
> Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it looks for
> some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a Mandrake
> 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback there
> either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server or a
> firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

> Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

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by **SINNE** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 02:49:50

cfswestern Read from the Sacred Scripts, and through the mist could be
seen:

Quote:> If I could ever find the right form of Linux and the right rpm's and the
> right order to install them so they actually work you will not see any more
> idiocy.

learn to use urpmi especially if your installing from the CD's, it
resolves "dependency hell" as you so eloquently put it.

I installed MDK 9 on four completely different machines and all the
installs went flawlessly.
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by **Jimb** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 03:12:24

> This is known as "Redhat Hell" My Suse 8.1 has XMMS working out of the
> box.

Nah. It's actually known as a badly formed troll attempt.
cfwestern doesn't want a working Linux system. Otherwise, he would use the
advice he's been given in the past.
Simple fact. If someone wants to listen to mp3's and watch vids, it really
isn't much of an issue with RH. Just go to http://www.freshrpms.net and
get apt and synaptic. Synaptic is a gui frontend for apt and apt will d/l
and install any available program, taking care of dependencies along the
way.
For the functionality that cfwestern claims to be looking for, it's a
simple case of opening synaptic and d/ling the following packages.
MPlayer
MPlayer-gui
mpeg321
For dvd playback with xine, he'd need a codec(not sure of the name, don't
have a dvd on my computer).
It really isn't all that difficult. Except for the codec all it takes is a
little time(about 20 mins. tops) and a little patience.

by **Jimb** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 03:24:47

> cfswestern Read from the Sacred Scripts, and through the mist could be
> seen:

>> If I could ever find the right form of Linux and the right rpm's and
>> the right order to install them so they actually work you will not see
>> any more idiocy.

> learn to use urpmi especially if your installing from the CD's, it
> resolves "dependency hell" as you so eloquently put it.

> I installed MDK 9 on four completely different machines and all the
> installs went flawlessly.

Yeah, but, see, cfwestern doesn't want it to work. It takes no effort to
fail and each time he fails he gets one more bit of trolling bait.
A little effort(very little) and RH would give him all he's looking for.

by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:02:43

> >> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> >> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever
> >> and
> >> install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the RPM
for
> >> XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for dependencies.
So
> >> I go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric and
> >> dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the
> >> system. So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at all.
> >> Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when it
> >> connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
> >> Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it looks
for
> >> some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a
> >> Mandrake
> >> 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback
there
> >> either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server or a
> >> firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

> >> Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

> >This is known as "Redhat Hell" My Suse 8.1 has XMMS working out of the
box.

> I agree Tom, I have had nothing but bad luck with Redhat including 8.0
> which hung when I tried to do an up2date and hosed the entire system.
> I know some people swear by Redhat, but for me I prefer SuSE.

> I have had excellent luck with SuSE 8.1 and in fact OVERALL, within
> the time frame and limitations of Linux, SuSE has ALWAYS delivered for
> me no matter what the version.

> Alsa works as designed and SuSE includes the full compliment of tools
> to configure alsa, like alsaconf for example.

> I find YaST to be intuitive and for me it works.
> Everything is in one place and once you learn the in's and outs Yast
> just seems to work real nice.

> My only suggestion is to not install Mozilla, plugger and the plugin
> package from 8.1 and instead get the stuff from the various websites
> and do it through Yast.

> Cfwestern would do himself a favor and install SuSE because he will
> find just about any application he could want on the CD's already
> which makes the install a breeze.

> I have reccommended SuSE 8.1 to several friends who have been trying
> Linux for years and never stuck with it and everyone of them has been
> very impressed with SuSE 8.1.

> Buy the Professional version because the books are worth the cost
> alone.

> flatfish+++

I find it funny that the apologists suggest that I am making it not work on
purpose. That does not even make good sense. But then this is Linuxland.

by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:41:48

> >> >> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able
to
> >> >> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be
clever
> >> >> and
> >> >> install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the
RPM
> >for
> >> >> XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for
dependencies.
> >So
> >> >> I go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that look like libric
and
> >> >> dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole deal and hung the
> >> >> system. So after I reboot it will not play any multimedia files at
all.
> >> >> Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install Mandrake 8, but when
it
> >> >> connects itself through my internet connection it decides that it is
> >> >> Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer thing again it
looks
> >for
> >> >> some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2. But I do not have a
> >> >> Mandrake
> >> >> 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So no multimedia playback
> >there
> >> >> either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It should remain a server
or a
> >> >> firewall because it cannot be used as an operating system.

> >> >> Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

> >> >This is known as "Redhat Hell" My Suse 8.1 has XMMS working out of
the
> >box.

> >> I agree Tom, I have had nothing but bad luck with Redhat including 8.0
> >> which hung when I tried to do an up2date and hosed the entire system.
> >> I know some people swear by Redhat, but for me I prefer SuSE.

> >> I have had excellent luck with SuSE 8.1 and in fact OVERALL, within
> >> the time frame and limitations of Linux, SuSE has ALWAYS delivered for
> >> me no matter what the version.

> >> Alsa works as designed and SuSE includes the full compliment of tools
> >> to configure alsa, like alsaconf for example.

> >> I find YaST to be intuitive and for me it works.
> >> Everything is in one place and once you learn the in's and outs Yast
> >> just seems to work real nice.

> >> My only suggestion is to not install Mozilla, plugger and the plugin
> >> package from 8.1 and instead get the stuff from the various websites
> >> and do it through Yast.

> >> Cfwestern would do himself a favor and install SuSE because he will
> >> find just about any application he could want on the CD's already
> >> which makes the install a breeze.

> >> I have reccommended SuSE 8.1 to several friends who have been trying
> >> Linux for years and never stuck with it and everyone of them has been
> >> very impressed with SuSE 8.1.

> >> Buy the Professional version because the books are worth the cost
> >> alone.

> >> flatfish+++

> >I find it funny that the apologists suggest that I am making it not work
on
> >purpose. That does not even make good sense. But then this is
Linuxland.

> SuSE 8.1 has the most multimedia applications, sound configuration
> options and just plain sheer number of applications of all the distros
> by far.

> SuSE even includes the envy24 mixer for my high end sound card, which
> was a nice surprise.

> Redhat is just not the distro for multimedia IMHO.
> Yes it can be made to work just like SuSE, but it will require a lot
> of work especially if you want to use alsa which is becoming the
> standard sound system.

> Mandrake 9.0 is somewhere in between SuSE and Redhat.

It appears that SUSE is the one that is not readily available from the
distro download sites. That does not amaze me. Another OSS, Overrated
Sourceless Software.

by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 05:04:37

> > My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> > perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever
> > and install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the
> > RPM for XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for
> > dependencies. So I go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that
> > look like libric and dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole
> > deal and hung the system. So after I reboot it will not play any
> > multimedia files at all. Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install
> > Mandrake 8, but when it connects itself through my internet connection
> > it decides that it is Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer
> > thing again it looks for some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2.
> > But I do not have a Mandrake 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So
> > no multimedia playback there either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It
> > should remain a server or a firewall because it cannot be used as an
> > operating system.

> That's a pile of BS. MDK 8.2 installed very well on my compaq laptop and
> old clone tower. And it knows it is 8.2 6.0, 7.0 and 8.0 all did the
> same on the laptop.

> > Oh,by the way, Happy Holidays.

> --
> Rick

It all installs great. They just refuse to play any sort of multimedia file.

by **cfswester** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 05:06:19

> > cfswestern Read from the Sacred Scripts, and through the mist could be
> > seen:

> >> If I could ever find the right form of Linux and the right rpm's and
> >> the right order to install them so they actually work you will not see
> >> any more idiocy.

> > learn to use urpmi especially if your installing from the CD's, it
> > resolves "dependency hell" as you so eloquently put it.

> > I installed MDK 9 on four completely different machines and all the
> > installs went flawlessly.

> Yeah, but, see, cfwestern doesn't want it to work. It takes no effort to
> fail and each time he fails he gets one more bit of trolling bait.
> A little effort(very little) and RH would give him all he's looking for.

Bullshit. I installed RedHat without XMMS as I was told. When I went to the
RPM libraries and found XMMS it wanted dependencies. Then the dependencies
crippled what was already installed.

by **Cecil Rhode** » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 05:16:25

> My ongoing attempts to get some version of Linux installed and able to
> perform common functions is going nowhere. I thought I would be clever
> and install Red Hat without XMMS and start from there. So I find the
> RPM for XMMS,XINE,and MPlayer. Of course some of them call for
> dependencies. So I go to the big RPM library and find some RPM that
> look like libric and dvd4linux. Naturally one of them hosed the whole
> deal and hung the system. So after I reboot it will not play any
> multimedia files at all. Oh,well,that is Linux for you. Then I install
> Mandrake 8, but when it connects itself through my internet connection
> it decides that it is Mandrake 9. So when I try that XINE,XMMS,MPlayer
> thing again it looks for some dependency files on the Mandrake 9 CD #2.
> But I do not have a Mandrake 9 CD #2 because I installed Mandrake 8. So
> no multimedia playback there either. Oh well, than is Linux for you. It
> should remain a server or a firewall because it cannot be used as an
> operating system.

I won't comment on Redhat 8.0 except to say that I installed it and spent
some time getting to the point where I had 7.3. No biggy. But what I'd
like to know is why trolls like yourself always install Redhat, Suse, or
Mandrake? Why don't you install Debian? I'll tell you why. Because with
Debian in order to get it set up properly you need to be somewhat
intelligent. On the contrary, you're
looking for the install to do everything for you. Once Debian is installed
you can forget "rpm hell" as you put it. Installing an app is as easy as
"apt-get install app-name" and everything is set up for you. Xmms, Xine,
Festival, etc -- you name the software and if there's a Debian deb file
it's a piece of cake. Otherwise you need to work a little.

But you don't seem to want to work a little, except you do work pretty
hard at filling up this newsgroup with horse shit.

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