> > i'm thinkin about stsarting a news group for
> > windows bashing. I'm thinking
> > about calling it comp.os.windows.bashing.
This would be redundant. There are already a number of good
places to discuss the problems with Windows. For example, the
advocacy groups are a good place to engaged in a discussion with
people who might be willing to engage in a useful discussion.
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy would be an excellent place to air your
grievances - since this would also be the place where you could get
the largest audience of interested listeners. Expect to get a
voluminous and rabid response, but if you have a thick skin, it's
There is also alt.destroy.microsoft, alt.fan.bill-gates, and
Keep in mind that in the Usenet world, Windows is a generic term
which could refer to X11, Mac, Microsoft, or Sun window based
environments. Mac and Sun predate any version of Microsoft windows,
and X11 predates any commercially viable version of Microsoft Windows
(Windows 3.0 specifically).
> > If anybody likes this idea PLEASE
This is really NOT a good idea. First of all, a negative discussion
group is merely the opposite of an advocacy group. Eventually you
simply have people cross-posting between the groups. As it is you
have people cross-posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy,
alt.destroy.microsoft, and alt.fan.bill-gates
Microsoft sucks up enough bandwidth without yet another hate-club.
Quote:> > Also, does anybody have info on how you
> > start a news group?
To host an alt group, you need a host, and you need to be able
to host that group, and you need to post to a newgroups group
to let other hosts know that you are starting a new group. You
also need an nntp server that can service all of the other servers
that want to publish and subscribe this group. Ideally, you need
a UNIX system or Linux system connected to a large T1 trunk.
Alternatively, you could start a community on DejaNews. These
communities don't get published to the entire usenet, but provide
a useful common community center that includes numerous options.
Again, unless you are planning on an invitation-only moderated group
where you can kill all positive defense to windows-bashers, you're
just being redundant. If all you want is to hear windows-bashers
with no defense or replies, you're really just sucking up drive space
on the news servers.
Let's face it, bashing Microsoft is like
in a mop bucket,
with a bazooka
(A quote from the "Selling Linux to Corporations"
workshop at a recent Linux Expo)
Quote:> That is exactly what the world needs. More arguments.
> I use both Windows and Linux on my computer, and
> you know what I found out?
> These two OS's exist side by side more
> peacefully than there adherents do.
Linux is doing quite a bit to coexist as nicely as possible. But
remember, Microsoft doesn't want us there. They want that PC all to
themselves. They want the manufacturers to load some version of
Microsoft Windows on every machine sold, exclusively, and with no
modification of the boot sequence (dual-boot...). The DOJ is trying
to muzzle the beast, and the OEMs are opting to install Linux on
some of their machines. I just recieved a catalog of PCs that offer
Linux preinstalled. The price is actually a few dollars more than
the Windows 98 versions, but much of this is because they expect to
provide better user support.
We have VMWare that lets us run Linux and Windows concurrently,
we have dual-boot systems that can let you select one or the other
at boot-up. We have linload which lets you boot Linux by clicking an
application icon, and we have installations that put the Linux partition
inside the Fat32 partition as a huge file. In fact, if you defragment
the hard drive, performance isn't too horrible. There is even the
capability to install the Linux files to the Fat32 partition.
Unfortunately, this subverts all attempts at security and
The Linux Advocacy group gets plenty of hostility from Microsoft
Advocates, some of whom are actually salaried employees of Microsoft.
Rex Ballard - Open Source Advocate, Internet
I/T Architect, MIS Director
Linux - 30 million satisfied users
and growing at over 1%/week!
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