Very Computer

by JS » Mon, 04 Jan 1999 04:00:00

As with most people I talk to about Windows (serious users that is), I'm
pretty frustrated with crashes when I want to do anything "out of the
ordinary" during setups. Hence, I've checked into Linux.

I have Red Hat v. 5.1. I would like to run Xwindows but I can't figure out
how to configure my video card correctly. It is an 8MB Matrox Millenium
G-200 (AGP bus).

The driver doesn't appear when I'm doing the setup so I tried selecting the
'unlisted video card' but this doesn't seem to work.

I would appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Jim

by **James A. Clelan** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

> I have Red Hat v. 5.1. I would like to run Xwindows but I can't figure out
> how to configure my video card correctly. It is an 8MB Matrox Millenium
> G-200 (AGP bus).

The XFree86 3.3.2 version that ships with RH5.1 doesn't support the G200
chipset AGP. What you can do is update your XFree to 3.3.3. I'm pretty sure it
supports the G200 AGP. Check out the xfree86.org website and look at the
release notes for Matrox cards. I'll bet you find your card is supported in
3.3.3. I would also bet that someone else will respond to this post and
confirm this in short order.

OR you could purchase Accelerated-X which is what I'm using with my 16meg
Millennium G200 AGP. It's a pretty fast server and the configuration is
brain-dead simple. I ran the install, ran the GUI setup (select your card,
select your monitor, select your bpp), and ran the server. Simple as that. In
fact, the new release coming out soon will autodetect your hardware, I hear.
Can't beat that.

James

by **Erwin de Beu** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Yes, XFree 3.3.3 runs on my Matrox G200 Marvel AGP. Although Gimp
manages to crash the server in 32 bit mode. (Have to look in to that).

Erwin de Beus

by **James A. Clelan** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

> Yes, XFree 3.3.3 runs on my Matrox G200 Marvel AGP. Although Gimp
> manages to crash the server in 32 bit mode. (Have to look in to that).

> Erwin de Beus

What resolution do you notice the problems with? All of them? I know that
Matrox cards have a hard time (read: don't do it) with 32bpp over
1280x1024. Higher resolutions should use packed TC (24bpp) instead, even
with 16megs. Some servers might let you actually set 32bpp at 1600x1200,
for instance, but I wouldn't try it :)

Good luck,
James

by **Evan Greenber** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Check out:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/XSuSE/xmatrox/

What you're really looking for is an X server that supports your
video card.
--Evan

> As with most people I talk to about Windows (serious users that is), I'm
> pretty frustrated with crashes when I want to do anything "out of the
> ordinary" during setups. Hence, I've checked into Linux.

> I have Red Hat v. 5.1. I would like to run Xwindows but I can't figure out
> how to configure my video card correctly. It is an 8MB Matrox Millenium
> G-200 (AGP bus).

> The driver doesn't appear when I'm doing the setup so I tried selecting the
> 'unlisted video card' but this doesn't seem to work.

> I would appreciate any help.

> Thanks,

> Jim

by **David F** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

> > I have Red Hat v. 5.1. I would like to run Xwindows but I can't figure out
> > how to configure my video card correctly. It is an 8MB Matrox Millenium
> > G-200 (AGP bus).

> The XFree86 3.3.2 version that ships with RH5.1 doesn't support the G200
> chipset AGP. What you can do is update your XFree to 3.3.3. I'm pretty sure it
> supports the G200 AGP. Check out the xfree86.org website and look at the
> release notes for Matrox cards. I'll bet you find your card is supported in
> 3.3.3. I would also bet that someone else will respond to this post and
> confirm this in short order.

There are RPMS for XFree86 version 3.3.3 on developer.redhat.com,
these will make upgrading easier. With these my G200 AGP works well.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU

by **Torbjorn Lindgr** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

>> supports the G200 AGP. Check out the xfree86.org website and look at the
>> release notes for Matrox cards. I'll bet you find your card is supported in
>> 3.3.3. I would also bet that someone else will respond to this post and
>> confirm this in short order.

>There are RPMS for XFree86 version 3.3.3 on developer.redhat.com,
>these will make upgrading easier. With these my G200 AGP works well.

Be carefull with those RPM's, they are dangerous! I installed them on
my machine but they caused Netscape to die very frequently (we're
talking 5 minutes before it died).

Yes, it was the current version rhcn*-3.3.3-6, with a Matrox G200...
Yanking them out and installing *RedHat*'s own 3.3.3 RPM from updates
[1] instead fixed this... The RedHat XFree86 rpm is actually one day
older than the latest rhcn version.

I also noticed that it was rather hard to go in that direction, RPM
didn't like it at all. It didn't recognize that XFree86-3.3.3 and
XFree-rhcn-3.3.3 was essentially the same package, so you had to use a
lot of force to make it behave (uninstall all of the -rhcn packages
with --nodeps, then installing the RedHat 3.3.3 packages).

1. ftp://updates.redhat.com/5.[012]/i386/XFree86-*
ftp://updates.redhat.com/4.2/i386/XFree86-*

by **Andrew Morto** » Wed, 06 Jan 1999 04:00:00

> > Yes, XFree 3.3.3 runs on my Matrox G200 Marvel AGP. Although Gimp
> > manages to crash the server in 32 bit mode. (Have to look in to that).

> > Erwin de Beus

> What resolution do you notice the problems with? All of them? I know that
> Matrox cards have a hard time (read: don't do it) with 32bpp over
> 1280x1024. Higher resolutions should use packed TC (24bpp) instead, even
> with 16megs. Some servers might let you actually set 32bpp at 1600x1200,
> for instance, but I wouldn't try it :)

> Good luck,
> James

I run the G200 at <boast> 1800x1350x16 </boast>.

It requires XFree86 3.3.3.

My XF86Config is at http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/XF86Config

by **Frank T. Lofar** » Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:00:00

>> I have Red Hat v. 5.1. I would like to run Xwindows but I can't figure out
>> how to configure my video card correctly. It is an 8MB Matrox Millenium
>> G-200 (AGP bus).
>The XFree86 3.3.2 version that ships with RH5.1 doesn't support the G200
>chipset AGP. What you can do is update your XFree to 3.3.3. I'm pretty sure it
>supports the G200 AGP. Check out the xfree86.org website and look at the
>release notes for Matrox cards. I'll bet you find your card is supported in
>3.3.3. I would also bet that someone else will respond to this post and
>confirm this in short order.

Matrox support in XFree86 3.3.3 is much better than in 3.3.2. 3.3.2 is
what Red Hat 5.2 also ships with, unfortunately. Red Hat 5.2 is still
the newest Red Hat, unfortunately. If you upgrade XFree86 to 3.3.3
using an install of XFree86 you lose all the Red Hat X defaults and
setup. I don't know how to avoid that. Other than JUST installing the
new X _server_ and having a hybrid 3.3.2/3.3.3 system. (seems to
work. I think running the new xf86config program is a good idea, if I
remember correctly)

Red Hat doesn't separate the config stuff they add from the base X
stuff like they should (this applies in general also; e.g. install a new
kernel, and lose, install a new version of a package the rest of the
system uses, but for which you don't have an rpm, and lose, do much
sysadmin stuff, and lose).

I like a lot of Red Hat stuff, but this annoys me no end.

by **Saa..** » Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:00:00

>>> I have Red Hat v. 5.1. I would like to run Xwindows but I can't figure out
>>> how to configure my video card correctly. It is an 8MB Matrox Millenium
>>> G-200 (AGP bus).

>>The XFree86 3.3.2 version that ships with RH5.1 doesn't support the G200
>>chipset AGP. What you can do is update your XFree to 3.3.3. I'm pretty sure it
>>supports the G200 AGP. Check out the xfree86.org website and look at the
>>release notes for Matrox cards. I'll bet you find your card is supported in
>>3.3.3. I would also bet that someone else will respond to this post and
>>confirm this in short order.

>Matrox support in XFree86 3.3.3 is much better than in 3.3.2. 3.3.2 is
>what Red Hat 5.2 also ships with, unfortunately. Red Hat 5.2 is still
>the newest Red Hat, unfortunately. If you upgrade XFree86 to 3.3.3
>using an install of XFree86 you lose all the Red Hat X defaults and
>setup. I don't know how to avoid that. Other than JUST installing the
>new X _server_ and having a hybrid 3.3.2/3.3.3 system. (seems to
>work. I think running the new xf86config program is a good idea, if I
>remember correctly)

>Red Hat doesn't separate the config stuff they add from the base X
>stuff like they should (this applies in general also; e.g. install a new
>kernel, and lose, install a new version of a package the rest of the
>system uses, but for which you don't have an rpm, and lose, do much
>sysadmin stuff, and lose).

>I like a lot of Red Hat stuff, but this annoys me no end.

When doing rpm -U or -i all old configuration files are renamed to blabla.oldrpm
or blabla.rpmsave. Use find to locate them and move any old settings back as you
desire. BTW config files are replaced only if the systax of the config file
changes.

by **Michael Meissne** » Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:> Matrox support in XFree86 3.3.3 is much better than in 3.3.2. 3.3.2 is
> what Red Hat 5.2 also ships with, unfortunately. Red Hat 5.2 is still
> the newest Red Hat, unfortunately. If you upgrade XFree86 to 3.3.3
> using an install of XFree86 you lose all the Red Hat X defaults and
> setup. I don't know how to avoid that. Other than JUST installing the
> new X _server_ and having a hybrid 3.3.2/3.3.3 system. (seems to
> work. I think running the new xf86config program is a good idea, if I
> remember correctly)

Or upgrade to a complete 3.3.3 system via RedHat's rpms. For 5.2, ftp to
updates.redhat.com, and go to the /5.2/i386 directory. I found I needed to
delete some of the packages, because somebody moved some files around.

--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA

by **Frank T. Lofar** » Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:>Or upgrade to a complete 3.3.3 system via RedHat's rpms. For 5.2, ftp to
>updates.redhat.com, and go to the /5.2/i386 directory. I found I needed to
>delete some of the packages, because somebody moved some files around.
>--

Thanks for the advice. But having to delete some files as you put it
is ugly! RPM should've dealt with that. Right? Who knows what state
the database is in... Maybe the package management way is not the way
to go.

The admins here at this site put non-core packages in their own
directory:

/local/package/bin
/local/package/man
/local/package/lib

Sure, they have to manage dependencies themselves, but it works very
well, and no database to get corrupted, and to remove a package one
can just rm -rf the directory, etc. No problems upgrading a library
that other stuff depends on, etc.

Multiple people can, and do, work in those directories.

Yes, $PATH, $MANPATH and $LD_LIBRARY_PATH management can be an issue,
but I wrote a shell function and script to automate that for
myself. It's not hard to handle.

You could make symlinks to the normal places if need be (standards,
etc). Not too hard to manage the symlinks, since a simple stat() will
let you know where tehy go, and hence, what they are.

You could have every such package automatically get a window manager
menu and each program a menu entry. Same with the man stuff for help
menus.

Dealing with that is much easier than RPM, etc type
solutions. Dependencies can be dealt with with common sense.

You don't need a database, etc if your files from different packages
are all mixed up together.

Might be a good alternative to .rpm, .deb hell.

BTW, GNU software have no problem with being put in a specific
directory.

./configure --prefix=/local/packagename works well. I have done this
at multiple sites, without trouble.

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