8088 port

8088 port

Post by Larry Gr » Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:00:00



Hi,

I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

Larry Gray

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Jared Mau » Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:00:00




Quote:>Hi,

>I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
>port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

>Larry Gray

        http://www.linux.org.uk/

        if i remember correctly.

        - Jared

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Greg Myer » Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:00:00



> Hi,

> I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
> port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

> Larry Gray

Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without
SEVERE problems/consequences.

With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
it on a 8088???

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Albert Cahal » Fri, 01 Dec 1995 04:00:00



>> I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux port for
>> the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

G> Linux is a 32-bit operating system

64-bit on the Alpha, and 16-bit on the 8088

G> that supports true multi-tasking and true multi-user operations.
G> The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit external chip.
G> Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without SEVERE
G> problems/consequences.

Well, someone is doing it.  Alan Cox maybe, I'm not sure.

G> With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even
G> consider running it on a 8088???

Embedded systems, like a VCR or Microwave.
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Albert Cahalan

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Dan Newcom » Sat, 02 Dec 1995 04:00:00





> Hi,

>> I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
>> port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

>> Larry Gray
>Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
>true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
>external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without
>SEVERE problems/consequences.

Yup.  that's the chip specs, but nonetheless it is happening.
http://www.linux.org.uk/Linux8086.html

Quote:>With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
>it on a 8088???

Because 8088's are cheaper than dirt :)  There are a lot of them out there,
and they are powerful enuff to do some basic functions.  Also, it's a lot
easier to put 8088's in an embedded system (ie.  Linux for toasters.)

        -Dan

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8088 port

Post by Alexander Otterbe » Sat, 02 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: >

: Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
: true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
: external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without
: SEVERE problems/consequences.

: With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
: it on a 8088???

perhaps to see it run in a virtual dos machine of os/2 ?

ciao...
   alex.

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8088 port

Post by David J. L » Sat, 02 Dec 1995 04:00:00


# . . .
# Because 8088's are cheaper than dirt :)  There are a lot of them out there,
# and they are powerful enuff to do some basic functions.  Also, it's a lot
# easier to put 8088's in an embedded system (ie.  Linux for toasters.)

A few years ago, rumor said that Microsoft was working on Windows for home
electronics, like toaster and walkman.  We ought to have GNU versions too.

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by ron bardars » Sat, 02 Dec 1995 04:00:00





>>> I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux port for
>>> the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

>G> With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even
>G> consider running it on a 8088???

>Embedded systems, like a VCR or Microwave.

Or far more interesting: HP200LX palmtop computers with an 80186 and
at least 2 Megs of RAM.  You can't put a dirt cheap 386 in your pocket.
Anyone have Minix experience?

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8088 port

Post by Ken Y » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00


|> I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
|> port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.
|
|Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
|true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
|external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without
|SEVERE problems/consequences.
|
|With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
|it on a 8088???

See

        http://www.linux.org.uk

Sure it will never be a nice interactive system, but it would make a
much nicer platform for developing embedded systems than DOS.

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Or » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00





>> I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
>> port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

 .
 .
 .

Quote:>With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
>it on a 8088???

   Doing sick things with embedded controllers.

   Cheap multiscreen terminals.

   Linux on a HP pocket PC.

   There are a whole bunch of things that can be done with it.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ I wonder if anyone has written SLIP for a HP
                  \/                                   Integral PC.

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Dan Newcom » Tue, 05 Dec 1995 04:00:00





># . . .
># Because 8088's are cheaper than dirt :)  There are a lot of them out there,
># and they are powerful enuff to do some basic functions.  Also, it's a lot
># easier to put 8088's in an embedded system (ie.  Linux for toasters.)

>A few years ago, rumor said that Microsoft was working on Windows for home
>electronics, like toaster and walkman.  We ought to have GNU versions too.

Oh great...I'll go to make toast in the morning, and come back to a
black piece of bread, while my walkman keeps going "GPF GPF GPF" and
transmitts my whole tape to Redmond.

Thanks - I'll stick with GE

        -Dan

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8088 port

Post by The Prote » Wed, 13 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
: true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
: external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without
: SEVERE problems/consequences.
:
: With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
: it on a 8088???

Well, there are many advantages to compiling a linux port to an 8086/88
architecture.. mainly for embedded processing. It is quite an
advantageous project to undertake, but I believe one is going on
somewhere...
        It would be quite nice to see a PDA or a small laptop running
UNIX instead of ancient MS-DOS for a change, and with all of the
high-school and College undergrads developing with the '86 and '88
architectures, Linux for the '88 would be one heck of a boost for
embedded OS development! ;)

        James J. Grisso
        CEO/Head Engineer
        Talon Audio Development Group

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Christopher Ward Bo » Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:00:00




> : Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
> : true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
> : external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  At least not without
> : SEVERE problems/consequences.
> : With used 386 prices in the dirt, why would anyone even consider running
> : it on a 8088???

FYI, there is a port of linux to 16 bit machines.  The project is called
Linux/16, and is highly alpha.  Is obtainable from tsx-11.mit.edu, in
the /pub/linux/ALPHA/linux-16 directory.

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8088 port

Post by Love H-Astra » Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:00:00



: > I've heard a rumor that somewhere someone is working on a Linux
: > port for the old 8088 chip systems.  Please point me to them.

: Linux is a 32-bit operating system that supports true multi-tasking and
: true multi-user operations.  The 8088 chip is a 16-bit internal/8-bit
: external chip.  Meaning it could never happen.  

There is a port. More about it on www.linux.org.uk
It made for the development world and for hack value.
I dont know the status of it thou...

Love

 
 
 

8088 port

Post by Harald Mi » Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:00:00



> architectures, Linux for the '88 would be one heck of a boost for
> embedded OS development! ;)

It's not really about "would be". Alan Cox is known to work on it. The
project name is Linux/ELKS.

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1. Connecting and 8088 to my Linux box via serial ports

Right now I have a 386/33DX running Linux.   I also have a 8088 running Dos
(and CP/M when I'm really bored. :)   While eventually I want to upgrade the
8088 to a 386, and get a 486 or higher, I'm still asking now because:
        a) it will be a while (monetary reasons)
        b) I'll still want to do this after I've upgraded.

Neither of the machines have Ethernet cards in them, and I plan on
buying/making a serial cable to link them together (like a laplink cable).  If
this can be done via the parallel port, even better, but I'll use serial for
now.

What I would like to do is connect the serial ports of the two machines, and
using the public domain packet drivers, and Clarkson University's CU/TCP
package, be able to telnet, ftp, etc... from my 8088 PC into my Linux box.

I know that this will probably involve using SLIP in one way or another.  This
is where I need help.  For starters, I don't have a clue on how to set up
SLIP.  I remember trying to do this before, and all the docs kept talking
about DIP, contradicting themselves, and basically being as unhelpful as Unix
docs tend to be.   One of the problems I remember I kept running into, was
phone numbers.  Obviously in this setup, I don't need to dial anything, but
that's all the docs wanted to talk about.  (Besides, the modem is for UUCP :)

Any help from anyone that's done this would be wonderful.  I've looked at the
list of Howto's, but none of them deal with this (unless it's hidden away in
the Ethernet one.)

        Thanks!!!
                -Dan

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