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by **Gerhard Mac** » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:40:17

> Pine, Mutt, there might be a few more.

That's a load of *... why should pine filter when you have procmail
just sitting there?

> Just my $0.02.
> Matthew.
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> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: lkml subject line

> > Is there a mail reader nowadays that doesn't let you do some sort of
> > filtering?

> > > Assuming your mail reader can do that (and no, I can't change my mail
> > > reader).

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by **Eli Carte** » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:04:47

> > > Dear all (and list maintainers in particular)

> > > Wouldn't it be a good idea to prepend all lkml subjects with [LKML] like
> > > many other lists do to distinguish lkml messages from the rest.

> > NO!

> Indeed. What a bad idea that would be.

> > If you want to pre-filter messages traveling thru linux-kernel list,
> > all you need to do is to check the content of Return-Path: header.

> On the other hand, that's also not a very good scheme. There *is* a good
> way to do this, and it would be really nice if vger could be taught to do
> it: add a List-Id: header (draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt RFC-to-be,
> implemented in lots of mailing list managers already).

Have you looked at the headers in an LK email?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Should provide that List-Id you want.

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by **Mohammad A. Haqu** » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:23:37

Or you could just check Sender which is already there.

Quote:
> Indeed. What a bad idea that would be.

> > If you want to pre-filter messages traveling thru linux-kernel list,
> > all you need to do is to check the content of Return-Path: header.

> On the other hand, that's also not a very good scheme. There *is* a good
> way to do this, and it would be really nice if vger could be taught to do
> it: add a List-Id: header (draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt RFC-to-be,
> implemented in lots of mailing list managers already).

> Examples from that doc:

> List-Id: List Header Mailing List <list-header.nisto.com>
> List-Id: <commonspace-users.list-id.within.com>
> List-Id: "Lena's Personal Joke List"
> <lenas-jokes.da39efc25c530ad145d41b86f7420c3b.021999.localhost>
> List-Id: "An internal CMU List" <0Jks9449.list-id.cmu.edu>
> List-Id: <da39efc25c530ad145d41b86f7420c3b.052000.localhost>

> > Or perhaps my utter aborrence is due to the way how GNU MAILMAN handles
> > that tagging (badly, that is).

> Mailman, incidentally, _has_ List-Id: support.

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by **Peter Samuelso** » Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:11:25

[Kai Henningsen]

Quote:> > There *is* a good way to do this, and it would be really nice if
> > vger could be taught to do it: add a List-Id: header
> > (draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt RFC-to-be, implemented in lots of
> > mailing list managers already).

[Eli Carter]

> Have you looked at the headers in an LK email?

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Should provide that List-Id you want.

You missed the point. Certainly there are ways to identify LK mail.
Kai is saying that since 'List-Id:' is an IETF proposed standard,
Majordomo ought to use it.

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by **Matti Aarni** » Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:31:07

> [Eli Carter]
> > Have you looked at the headers in an LK email?

> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Should provide that List-Id you want.

> You missed the point. Certainly there are ways to identify LK mail.
> Kai is saying that since 'List-Id:' is an IETF proposed standard,
> Majordomo ought to use it.

There is no STANDARDS TRACK RFC saying anything about List-Id:.
There are only some individual's submission for a draft about it.
It is also way overdue to expire (Expires September 23, 1999), and
it has not been updated, nor advanced towards RFC.

There are issues where me and DaveM are as obstinate as Linus,
inserting lots of junky headers and munging others (e.g. Subject:)
is a big no-no. You can hash the issue all you want, but you
can't convince me and DaveM.

That X-Mailing-List: is actually a LOOP detection measure.
http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9

I do have some plans which will change things at VGER, but those
details are not ready for publishing yet.

Quote:> Peter

/Matti Aarnio
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