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by **N SUMMERSA** » Thu, 28 Jul 1994 01:20:04

I am running a HP827 server under HP-UX 8.02 which is simply accessed by
pc's using telnet. However some of the users now require a X Windows
connection. Does the required software come as standard and what exacly
do I need. Does it use xterm or is something else available?

Thanks

Neil

by **Douglas P. Shapter x3** » Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:55:10

>I am running a HP827 server under HP-UX 8.02 which is simply accessed by
>pc's using telnet. However some of the users now require a X Windows
>connection. Does the required software come as standard and what exacly
>do I need. Does it use xterm or is something else available?
>Thanks
>Neil

To run X on a PC, you'll need a PC X Server-- there are several on
the market. We've had good luck with Hummingbird's and Reflection's,
though I'm sure there are other good ones out there.

Be careful when you do price comparisons, the cheaper server may actually
require additional products from the same company. And the installation
is probably not something you want to leave to the average (naive) PC
user. Since most of the PC X servers run under Windows ( and use the
windows API), a lot of extensions are NOT supported (the Pex library
comes to mind, there are probably more).

Presumambly (since they are logging on already with telnet), they have
the TCP/IP stuff on their PCs-- so you are covered in that area.

have fun.

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by **steve johns** » Thu, 28 Jul 1994 06:49:42

> To run X on a PC, you'll need a PC X Server-- there are several on
> the market. We've had good luck with Hummingbird's and Reflection's,
> though I'm sure there are other good ones out there.

XVision from Visionware in california and PC-Xware are two others.
visionware is up to 5.x and is 32 bit. don't know if others are 16 or 32
but i'm sure they're all moving to 32.

Quote:> Be careful when you do price comparisons, the cheaper server may actually
> require additional products from the same company. And the installation
> is probably not something you want to leave to the average (naive) PC
> user. Since most of the PC X servers run under Windows ( and use the
> windows API), a lot of extensions are NOT supported (the Pex library
> comes to mind, there are probably more).

yeah, prices can be misleading and installation can be kinda tricky, but
configuration and setting up clients is (in my experience) the real
problem. note that they will have to have the server software running as
a tsr (some may have a dll) in order to receive a window. this is a
common problem. the user may have set everything up right and sent the
appropriate commands but will not have his server listening to receive.
the client will be sending but to no avail.

Quote:> Presumambly (since they are logging on already with telnet), they have
> the TCP/IP stuff on their PCs-- so you are covered in that area.

some may also require sockets and/or a command or two in their
autoexec.bat. if the pc user is relatively smart and the sysadmin for the
unix/x machine isn't, the pc user may be able to get into places they're
not supposed to. however, that's the sysadmin's problem. you might want
to tell them that you're hooking people up using x, although they should
already have some sort of security in place.

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