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Apache 1.3.12 and Solaris 2.7 Problem

Apache 1.3.12 and Solaris 2.7 Problem

Post by Paul Matthew » Thu, 07 Dec 2000 04:00:00



Hi.

We're running apache 1.3.12 on Solaris 2.7 and the httpd daemons
don't seem to die off. Even after their TIME_WAIT they just hang
around forever stoping new fresh processes from running. The
result is the web server simply crawls as it's hit it's maximum no.
of web processes (150 in this case). Some do die I guess because
after 30 seconds you'll get a connection (unless it's picked up an old
one?). When this was running on Solaris 2.6 everything was fine. I
then recompiled exactly the same config for Solaris 2.7 and this are
not so fine. I've even tried running the 2.6 compiled version in case
it worked ! Has anyone else seen this ? I'm not sure if it's Solaris 2.7
or httpd which is to blame ! I did try dropping the tcp_time_wait_interval
in the kernel with no luck.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers, Paul
Paul Matthews

 
 
 
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Apache 1.3.12 and Solaris 2.7 Problem

Post by Chris Tubuti » Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:04:49



> Hi.
> We're running apache 1.3.12 on Solaris 2.7 and the httpd daemons
> don't seem to die off. Even after their TIME_WAIT they just hang
> around forever stoping new fresh processes from running. The
> result is the web server simply crawls as it's hit it's maximum no.
> of web processes (150 in this case). Some do die I guess because
> after 30 seconds you'll get a connection (unless it's picked up an old
> one?). When this was running on Solaris 2.6 everything was fine. I
> then recompiled exactly the same config for Solaris 2.7 and this are
> not so fine. I've even tried running the 2.6 compiled version in case
> it worked ! Has anyone else seen this ? I'm not sure if it's Solaris 2.7
> or httpd which is to blame ! I did try dropping the tcp_time_wait_interval
> in the kernel with no luck.

Hmmm.....  I remember talking about stuff like this at a BOF at ApacheCon
last March/April/whenever. Yeah, I think others have this problem, too. If
you run mod_perl, you're gonna soon run out of memory and swap space, too.
What somebody suggested was to disable keepalives... lo and behold, life is
happier for me now. Of course, YMMV.

ct

 
 
 
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1. Apache 1.3.12 + Solaris 2.7 gives fork errors under high load

I've currently got 680 webs (not including ServerAliases) running off of
Apache 1.3.12 on an UltraSparc 360 with 256MB memory, 2048MB Swap, which is
running Solaris 2.7

Right now, I have to have "MaxClients" set to 150.  If I bring the number up
to 500 (or even 200), where I'd like to have it, The system goes out of
control slow, and I have a very hard time even gaining shell access.  When I
do get into the machine, almost everything I try (ps, df, top, etc) yeilds
an error similar to: "fork: not enough space".

as soon as I kill apache the issue resolves.  If I start apache, the problem
comes back after just a few minutes.

I understand that this is not specifically an Apache problem, and it just so
happens that Apache is what is taking most of the resources, but more of an
Operating System problem... but I'm still looking for help.

My best guess is that the system is not allocating the right amount of
memory to internal processes, but I dont even know how to tell.

using top, I see right now, that the CPU  95.2% idle,  0.4% user,  1.4%
kernel,  3.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
I see the memory: Memory: 256M real, 3808K free, 1036M swap in use, 1136M
swap free

server being the servername,  This is what I configured with:
./configure \
--prefix=/home/server/www \
--enable-module=cern_meta \
--enable-module=info \
--enable-module=status \
--enable-module=expires \
--enable-module=mime_magic \
--enable-suexec \
--suexec-caller=webguy \
--suexec-userdir=cgi-bin \
--suexec-docroot=/home/server \
--suexec-uidmin=100 \
--suexec-gidmin=10 \
--suexec-safepath="/usr/local/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin"

Here is an example of what each of the 680 webs has in the config file:
<VirtualHost 1.2.3.4>
ServerName www.domain.com
ServerAlias domain.com
DocumentRoot /home/server/www2/www.domain.com/web
User username
Group groupname
CustomLog logs/virtual/www.domain.com/www.domain.com.20020108.log combined
ScriptAlias /_vti_bin/_vti_adm/
/home/server/www2/www.domain.com/web/_vti_bin/_vti_adm/
ScriptAlias /_vti_bin/_vti_aut/
/home/server/www2/www.domain.com/web/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/
ScriptAlias /_vti_bin/ /home/server/www2/www.domain.com/web/_vti_bin/
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/server/www2/www.domain.com/web/cgi-bin/
</VirtualHost>

- please carbon copy replies to jkister at netreach.net

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Jeremy

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