AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

Post by Mark Kosten - Computer Centre, La Trobe Un » Thu, 28 Feb 1991 23:51:02




Quote:> Anyone seen support for X11R3 or X11R4 for the new XGA adapters
> under AIX PS/2 1.2?  I could use an old 8514/A but the specs on
> XGA make this seem unnecessary.  My IBM rep was pretty sure it would
> be supported someday.

I have heard from my spies in IBM (comments invited to confirm or deny):

1. PS/2 AIX is dead (no more new versions, except for bug fixes).

2. AIX has not been certified for the PS/2 90 and 95.

3. AIX will never be certified to work on the model 90 and 95.

4. Not said to me, but a conclusion of (3) is no support for XGA.

5. The only way to run Unix on the model 90 and 95 and have IBM's
   blessing is to run SCO's Open Desktop, with which IBM have a licensing
   agreement.

6. Future Unix versions for IBM PS/2s may be SCO's ODT or something similar
   from a joint development between IBM and SCO.

Mark Kosten (who denies having written the above)

 
 
 

AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

Post by Karl Bun » Fri, 01 Mar 1991 02:11:38




>> Anyone seen support for X11R3 or X11R4 for the new XGA adapters...
>I have heard from my spies in IBM (comments invited to confirm or deny):
>1. PS/2 AIX is dead (no more new versions, except for bug fixes).

Can anyone confirm/deniy this?  I have heard this floating around all over
the place.  But no authoritative statements or even an inside voice.  Maybe
some of the IBM'ers that read this group can give us a hint without making
an official statement?  My company is putting a lot of resources into
learning AIX for the purpose of supporting "future" buisness.  And if this
is a dead end alley on the PS/2 platforms for god's sake tell us.  We have
worked with SCO since before time so we don't have a problem there.  But I
am paying people to learn this thing as I type. :-(  If it's a dead end
we're gonna be stung.

BTW, I talked to a IBM AIX Tech durring a "Hot call" about a week ago and
he said that AIX 1.3 would be out in about a month?  He said the current
"update (26 damm disks)" was getting out of hand and that they would be
going to a new release level.  (He thought it would be 1.3 but it might
be the rumored 1.2.2)

BTW, if anyone want's to e-mail me a note with more authority I won't
say a word if you don't want me to.  Or even better I'll mention the
rumor from another voice if you're okay with it.. :-)

Thanks in advance,
Karl
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AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

Post by Stephen Lin » Fri, 01 Mar 1991 01:29:42


I'm making this posting for an IBM marketing person, Brennan Carley,
who doesn't have access to post it himself:

>From: C...@lure.latrobe.edu.au (Mark Kosten - Computer Centre, La Trobe Uni.)
>Subject: AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

>In article <7...@lhdsy1.chevron.com>, m...@lhdsy1.chevron.com (Mike E.
Osborne) writes
>> Anyone seen support for X11R3 or X11R4 for the new XGA adapters
>> under AIX PS/2 1.2?  I could use an old 8514/A but the specs on
>> XGA make this seem unnecessary.  My IBM rep was pretty sure it would
>> be supported someday.

>I have heard from my spies in IBM (comments invited to confirm or deny):

>1. PS/2 AIX is dead (no more new versions, except for bug fixes).

This is absolutely untrue.  IBM just announced and has begun to ship a
new release of AIX PS/2.  IBM remains committed to AIX on the PS/2.
IBM's president (Jack Kuehler) has publically stated that a future
version of AIX PS/2 would be OSF/1 based.

>2. AIX has not been certified for the PS/2 90 and 95.

Also nonsense.  AIX PS/2 1.2.1 is fully supported on the models 90 and
95.

>3. AIX will never be certified to work on the model 90 and 95.

See above.

>4. Not said to me, but a conclusion of (3) is no support for XGA.

AIX PS/2 1.2.1 supports XGA in VGA compatibility mode today.

>5. The only way to run Unix on the model 90 and 95 and have IBM's
>   blessing is to run SCO's Open Desktop, with which IBM have a licensing
>   agreement.

Also false.

>6. Future Unix versions for IBM PS/2s may be SCO's ODT or something similar
>   from a joint development between IBM and SCO.

Also false.  Future versions will be OSF based, in line with IBM's
strategic direction for AIX.

Attached is the announcement for the current release of AIX PS/2:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

NUMBER     291-039
DATE       910205
TITLE      AIX PS/2 OPERATING SYSTEM VERSIONS 1.2.1 AND RELATED AIX PS/2
VERSION
           1.1.1 AND 1.2.1 LICENSED PROGRAMS
ABSTRACT          The AIX (R) PS/2 (R) Operating System and Operating System
           Extensions are now available on Internal Tape Backup Unit (ITBU)
           mini-cartridge for customers who wish to install from tape media.
                  AIX PS/2 Operating System Version 1.2.1 and related licensed
           programs provide support for the GEARBOX (R) Model 800 Industrial
           Computer and additional Personal System/2 (R) models.  Multibyte
           character and the Extended C Language compiler conforming to ANSI
           X3J11/90-013 are now offered to address requirements for National
           Language implementations.
                  The programs announced today replace Versions 1.1 and 1.2 of
           the AIX PS/2 Operating System and related AIX PS/2 programs.
           Upgrades from AIX PS/2 Operating System Version 1.1 and Operating
           System Extensions Version 1.1 are offered to encourage migration.
                                                                       Program
           Description                                                 Number
           AIX PS/2 Operating System
             Version 1.2.1                                             5713-AEQ
           AIX PS/2 Operating System Extensions
             Version 1.2.1                                             5713-AFH
           AIX PS/2 Application Development
             Toolkit Version 1.2.1                                     5713-AEP
           AIX PS/2 DOS Merge Version 1.2.1                            5713-AEY
           AIX PS/2 INmail (1)/INed (2)/INnet (1)/
             INftp Version 1.2.1                                       5713-AET
           AIX PS/2 Network File System
             Version 1.2.1                                             5713-AFG
           AIX PS/2 Text Formatting System
             Version 1.2.1                                             5713-AFD
           AIX PS/2 Transparent Computing
             Facility Version 1.2.1                                    5713-AFK
           AIX PS/2 Transmission Control Protocol/
             Internet Protocol Version 1.2.1                           5713-AEW
           AIX PS/2 X.25 Version 1.2.1                                 5601-202
           AIX PS/2 X-Windows Version 1.2.1                            5713-AEX
           AIXwindows Environment for PS/2
             Version 1.2.1                                             5601-439
           AIX PS/2 C Language Version 1.1.1                           5713-AFC
           AIX PS/2 Extended C Language
             Version 1.2.1                                             5621-143
                                                                       Program
           Description                                                 Number
           AIX PS/2 Usability Services
             Version 1.1.1                                             5713-AFE
           AIX PS/2 VS FORTRAN Version 1.1.1                           5713-AFA
           AIX PS/2 VS Pascal Version 1.1.1                            5713-AEZ
           AIX PS/2 Workstation Host Interface
             Program Version 1.1.1                                     5713-AER
                  Planned Availability Date:  February 22, 1991.
            (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines
              Corporation.
            (1) Trademark of INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation.
            (2) Registered trademark of INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation.
PRODNO       5713-AEP  5713-AEX  5713-AFG
             5713-AFA  5713-AEY  5713-AFH
             5713-AEQ  5713-AEZ  5713-AFK
             5713-AER  5713-AFC  5601-202
             5713-AET  5713-AFD  5601-439
             5713-AEW  5713-AFE  5621-143
OVERVIEW   HIGHLIGHTS
           o   Support for additional hardware
           o   Support for multiple byte characters and ANSI C applications
           o   DOS Merge support for (Lotus (3)/Intel (4)/Microsoft (5) 4.0)
               (LIM 4.0) specifications
           o   Installation from PS/2 Internal Tape Backup Unit
           o   Availability of an X.25 API
           o   Availability of an API for the Realtime Interface Co-Processor
           o   Improved file system requiring less fixed disk space
            (3) Trademark of Lotus Corporation.
            (4) Trademark of Intel Corporation.
            (5) Registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation.
           DESCRIPTION
           GROWTH ENABLEMENT
           Growth enablement is enhanced through additional system and
periphery
           support.  AIX PS/2 Version 1.2.1 announces support for the following
           additional devices:
           o   Systems:
               -   IBM PS/2 Model 65 SX (8565-321, 8565-061, 8565-121)
               -   IBM GEARBOX Model 800 Industrial Computer (7568-150)
               -   IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP 486 (8590-0J5, 8590-0J9, 8590-0KD)
               -   IBM PS/2 Model 95 XP 486 (8595-0J9, 8595-0JD, 8595-0KD)
               -   IBM PS/2 Model P75 486 (8573-161, 8573-401)
               -   IBM PS/2 Model 80 (8580-081, 8580-161, 8580-A16)
           o   Co-Processor:  IBM PS/2 Wizard Adapter (#3462, 64F7351)
           o   Keyboard:  Icelandic
           o   Storage Devices:
               -   IBM 4869 External Diskette Drive
               -   IBM PS/2 Tape Backup Unit (#5279, 30F5279)
               -   IBM PS/2 CD-ROM Drive (#1113, 6451113)
               -   3510 IBM PS/2 External CD-ROM Drive
               -   3511 IBM PS/2 External Storage Enclosure for SCSI Devices
               -   IBM PS/2 400MB SCSI Fixed Disk Drive (#1081, 6451081)
               -   IBM PS/2 80MB SCSI Fixed Disk Drive (#1045, 6451045)
               -   IBM PS/2 160MB SCSI Fixed Disk Drive (#1046, 6451046)
           o   Communication Adapter:  IBM PS/2 Adapter/A for Ethernet Networks
               (#1091, 6451091)
               NOTE: Support will be provided no later than August 1991.
           o   Displays/Adapters:
               -   IBM PS/2 Image Adapter/A 1MB (#0072, 44F9914)
               -   IBM PS/2 Image Adapter/A 3MB (#0073, 44F9919)
               -   IBM PS/2 Image Adapter/A 3MB-6091 (#0074, 44F9921)
               -   IBM 7544 Industrial Graphics Display
               -   IBM 7554 Industrial Graphics Display
               -   8515 PS/2 Color Display (1024 X 768 color 14-inch)
           o   Printers/Plotters
               -   IBM Personal Page Printer II Model 031
               -   IBM 4224 Wire Matrix Printer (Models 301, 302, 3C2 and 3E3)
               -   IBM 4234 Dot Band Printer Model 013
               -   5204 Quickwriter (R) Printer
               -   IBM 4019 LaserPrinter
               -   IBM 4019 LaserPrinter E
               -   IBM 3816 Page Printer Model 01D
               -   IBM 3812 Pageprinter Model 2
               -   4072 ExecJet (TM) Printer
               -   6185 Color Plotter.
            (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines
              Corporation.
            (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation.
           BUSINESS SOLUTIONS
           The capability to implement National Languages in the AIX PS/2
           environment required the need for additional character support.
           Multibyte character support to addresses this requirement.  AIX PS/2
           Extended C Language Version 1.2.1 complies with ANSI X3J11/90-013.
                  The DOS Merge program now supports the LIM 4.0 specification
           providing expanded memory support (EMS memory) to DOS applications.
                  AIX PS/2 X.25 Version 1.2.1 now provides the following:
           o   Support for logon from terminals attached to a packet
               assembler/disassembler (PAD) supporting CCITT (6) X.29
               recommendations
                (6) International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative
                  Committee.
...

read more »

 
 
 

AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

Post by Mark Kosten - Computer Centre, La Trobe Un » Fri, 01 Mar 1991 23:00:33


A number of people have sent me mail telling me about AIX 1.2.1 and
its support of XGA.  I happened to see my source in IBM again today
so asked further questions.  Remember, *I* am not saying this!

1.2.1 counts as a bug fix and minor update.  There is still not
Xwindow support of high-resolution XGA.  A new version of AIX will
be an amalgam of something done with SCO, but also related to OSF in
some way.  It might be called AIX, but will not be the same code as
exists today.  Expect an announcement in 3-6 months with regard to
Open Desktop.

All this came about because while wandering about an IBM building I
came across a guy from SCO demoing Open Desktop on a model 90.  I
inquired about this unusual looking event and found out the above.

So, that's all I know.  I don't run Unix so have no axe to grind,
I just thought you AIX 1.2 users might find this interesting.  I can't
vouch for the veracity of IBM long-term planning, however.  Plus,
that's all I know, so no more upsetting-the-applecart mail from me!

Mark Kosten

 
 
 

AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

Post by John Canni » Sat, 02 Mar 1991 13:55:59



Quote:

>I have heard from my spies in IBM (comments invited to confirm or deny):

>1. PS/2 AIX is dead (no more new versions, except for bug fixes).

    This is correct.  However, IBM has announced AIX 1.2.1 for the PS/2
    family of computers.  This version of AIX is to pick up where 1.2
    left off - with the same bugs, features, etc.

Quote:

>2. AIX has not been certified for the PS/2 90 and 95.

    AIX 1.2 has not been certified for the PS/2 90 and 95.

    AIX 1.2.1 IS certified for the PS/2 90 and 95.

Quote:

>3. AIX will never be certified to work on the model 90 and 95.

    Wrong.  AIX 1.2 will never be certified for the model 90 and 95.

    AIX 1.2.1 has already been certified for the model 90 and 95.

IBM is devoting most of the PS/2 AIX resources to porting the OSF/1
kernel over to the PS/2 (and thus the model 370's).

AIX 1.1, 1.2 (and now 1.2.1) were developed by IBM and Locus
Computing as a joint project between the PS/2 and the Model 370's.
Most of their efforts and bug fixes have gone in to making the two
machines work together.  This was important as the Model 370's do
not know how to talk to ASCII terminals; they need the PS/2's in
order to do that.

 
 
 

AIX 1.2 is dead (was X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2)

Post by John Canni » Sun, 03 Mar 1991 13:46:44



(John Canning) writes:


Kosten - Computer Centre, La Trobe Uni.) writes:

Quote:

>>I have heard from my spies in IBM (comments invited to confirm or deny):

>>1. PS/2 AIX is dead (no more new versions, except for bug fixes).

>    This is correct.  However, IBM has announced AIX 1.2.1 for the PS/2
>    family of computers.  This version of AIX is to pick up where 1.2
>    left off - with the same bugs, features, etc.

This is what I get for posting things late at night.  The above statement
should have read:

    PS/2 AIX release 1.2 is dead.  It is being replaced by AIX 1.2.1.

Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

 
 
 

1. X server for PS/2 XGA under AIX 1.2

Anyone seen support for X11R3 or X11R4 for the new XGA adapters
under AIX PS/2 1.2?  I could use an old 8514/A but the specs on
XGA make this seem unnecessary.  My IBM rep was pretty sure it would
be supported someday.

Any help?

Mike Osborne

2. uname translation

3. Does AIX PS/2 1.2 run on the PS/2 Models 90 and 95?

4. Cannon 4100?

5. AIX 3.1 restore program on AIX 1.2?

6. FWD: 3 NIC cards problem

7. looking for dosformat and catman for AIX 1.2 (PS

8. CDROM Formats?

9. SCSI driver for PS/2 AIX 1.2

10. g++ on PS/2 AIX 1.2

11. xgks on PS/2 AIX 1.2

12. segmentation fault with sort on AIX 1.2 (PS/2)

13. Using a 3com ethernet board in a PS/2 model 80 with AIX 1.2?