Last call for C-Kermit 8.0.206 binaries

Last call for C-Kermit 8.0.206 binaries

Post by Frank da Cr » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:06:06



We're going to press shortly with the C-Kermit 8.0 CDROM; it's in pretty
good shape in terms of current C-Kermit binaries for many platforms,
but there's always room for improvement.  If you can build C-Kermit on
any platform for which we don't yet have an 8.0.206 binary, we can put
it on the CDROM if you send it in soon.  You can find the current list
of binaries here:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80binaries.html

Instructions for making and sending in new ones are here:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cksendbin.html

Thanks!

- Frank

 
 
 

Last call for C-Kermit 8.0.206 binaries

Post by JF Meze » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:32:30



> but there's always room for improvement.  If you can build C-Kermit on
> any platform for which we don't yet have an 8.0.206 binary, we can put
> it on the CDROM if you send it in soon.  You can find the current list
> of binaries here:

I'd be willing to build it for VMS 7.2 TCPIP-5.3

However, is there really any differennce between such a build and one built
with TCPIP 5.1 which you already have ? (TCPIP = UCX).

Also, just a comment, in the list of OS at the top of the page, just use
"DEC Tru64, DEC VMS" instead of "DEC/Compaq/HP VMS" etc.

Or as a compromise, "DEC/HP VMS".

The word Compaq doesn't belong anywhere near "VMS" and it just make things
look far more complicated than they really are.

 
 
 

Last call for C-Kermit 8.0.206 binaries

Post by Frank da Cr » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:30:10





: > but there's always room for improvement.  If you can build C-Kermit on
: > any platform for which we don't yet have an 8.0.206 binary, we can put
: > it on the CDROM if you send it in soon.  You can find the current list
: > of binaries here:
:
: I'd be willing to build it for VMS 7.2 TCPIP-5.3
:
: However, is there really any differennce between such a build and one built
: with TCPIP 5.1 which you already have ? (TCPIP = UCX).
:
That one wouldn't be essential.  It's more important to get builds on
platforms that have earlier OS's or, in the VMS case, earlier TCP/IP
versions than the ones for which C-Kermit 8.0.206 is already built.

: Also, just a comment, in the list of OS at the top of the page, just use
: "DEC Tru64, DEC VMS" instead of "DEC/Compaq/HP VMS" etc.
:
: Or as a compromise, "DEC/HP VMS".
:
: The word Compaq doesn't belong anywhere near "VMS" and it just make things
: look far more complicated than they really are.
:
Understood, but on the other hand if I left it out somebody else would
complain.  This way more searches succeed.  Also, it *is* more complicated;
e.g. DEC OSF/1 and Digital Unix, but Compaq and HP Tru64 (DEC never called it
Tru64, unless I'm mistaken)...  Plus, if you think it's complicated now, just
wait til VMS comes out on IA64.  Then we'll have:

 (VAX vs Alpha vs IA64) x ([Open]VMS version) x (TCP product) x (TCP version)

How inconsiderate of DEC to complicate our lives by making products that
never die.  I've got a VAX upstairs running VMS 5.5 that hasn't been rebooted
in years.  And I don't even feel that I'm tempting fate by saying that.

Anyway back to the point -- the binaries we need the most right now are for
older platforms: Digital Unix 3.x, OSF/1, VMS prior to 5.5, Ultrix versions
prior to 4.5.  The AT&T 3B2.  Solaris prior to 2.5.1.  The Sun3 and Sun4.
Any version of AIX besides 4.3.3.  Any version of AIX, SunOS, or Solaris
with X.25 support.  Older versions of IRIX or DG/UX.  Any version of
NeXTSTEP, OpenSTEP, ESIX, or NCR MP-RAS.  Unicos... Are there any Crays left
out there?

There are also some new platforms I don't have binaries for yet -- QNX 6.1,
Zaurus, Ipaq...  Oh yeah, and some other new Linux-based PDA (not Zaurus)
from Korea, can't remember its name just now.

- Frank

 
 
 

Last call for C-Kermit 8.0.206 binaries

Post by Peter LANGSTOEG » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:02:02






>: > but there's always room for improvement.  If you can build C-Kermit on
>: > any platform for which we don't yet have an 8.0.206 binary, we can put
>: > it on the CDROM if you send it in soon.  You can find the current list
>: > of binaries here:
>:
>: I'd be willing to build it for VMS 7.2 TCPIP-5.3
>:
>: However, is there really any differennce between such a build and one built
>: with TCPIP 5.1 which you already have ? (TCPIP = UCX).
>:
>That one wouldn't be essential.  It's more important to get builds on
>platforms that have earlier OS's or, in the VMS case, earlier TCP/IP
>versions than the ones for which C-Kermit 8.0.206 is already built.

>: Also, just a comment, in the list of OS at the top of the page, just use
>: "DEC Tru64, DEC VMS" instead of "DEC/Compaq/HP VMS" etc.
>:
>: Or as a compromise, "DEC/HP VMS".
>:
>: The word Compaq doesn't belong anywhere near "VMS" and it just make things
>: look far more complicated than they really are.
>:
>Understood, but on the other hand if I left it out somebody else would
>complain.  This way more searches succeed.  Also, it *is* more complicated;
>e.g. DEC OSF/1 and Digital Unix, but Compaq and HP Tru64 (DEC never called it
>Tru64, unless I'm mistaken)...  Plus, if you think it's complicated now, just
>wait til VMS comes out on IA64.  Then we'll have:

> (VAX vs Alpha vs IA64) x ([Open]VMS version) x (TCP product) x (TCP version)

Not really. Because [Open]VMS has a great history of beeing upward compatible.

Built for UCX it will run on TCPIP, Multinet and TCPware also.
Built on ancient/earlier VMS versions it will run on more recent ones also.

I used an image of 1978 (TAPECOPY.EXE) up to the late 90s...

--
Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
Network and OpenVMS system specialist

A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

 
 
 

Last call for C-Kermit 8.0.206 binaries

Post by Frank da Cr » Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:59:41




: > ...if you think it's complicated now, just
: > wait til VMS comes out on IA64.  Then we'll have:
: >
: > (VAX vs Alpha vs IA64) x (VMS version) x (TCP product) x (TCP version)
:
: Not really. Because [Open]VMS has a great history of beeing upward
: compatible.
:
: Built for UCX it will run on TCPIP, Multinet and TCPware also.
: Built on ancient/earlier VMS versions it will run on more recent ones also.
:
I know, but I still need to build each new release of C-Kermit on every
possible combination to make sure they all still work.  You can't take this
for granted -- small changes in VMS or TCP/IP-product header files can do a
great deal of damage to previously working builds.  Similarly, small changes
in Kermit can introduce conflicts with symbols that are defined in some
obscure header file.  And so on.

- Frank

 
 
 

1. Need C-Kermit 8.0.206 Zaurus binary

We have released an updated version of C-Kermit 8.0, mainly to fix a few
bugs and adapt the built-in scriptable FTP client to some of the new
FTP protocol features that are about to be approved in IETF (e.g. that
allow recursive directory-tree downloads without having to parse
host-dependent directory listings):

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckermit.html

Can somebody here who has a Zaurus with C compiler installed please
download the new source code, make a Zaurus binary, and upload to the
Kermit Project site for distribution?  General instructions are here:

  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cksendbin.html

The makefile target is "sl5500", and the binary should be uploaded to/as:

  ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/incoming/cku206.linux-zaurus-sl5500

Thanks!

Frank da Cruz
The Kermit Project
Columbia University
New York City

web: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/

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