Need your opinions on selection of OS/2 or Windows (or UNIX?)

Need your opinions on selection of OS/2 or Windows (or UNIX?)

Post by Bob Jackiewi » Wed, 17 Jul 1991 05:37:16



Quote:>  1. UNIX costs way to much (ie. $150 for OS/2, $2000 for UNIX).

I remember hearing or reading an article which said that somebody
somewhere made a clone of the Unix system, which was functionally
complete. The great thing was that the author was selling it for only
$100. The bad news is that I don't recall anything about the product,
like the name or author. If anyone remembers anything like this, please
post it, as I'm sure a lot of people would like to get in on this.

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Need your opinions on selection of OS/2 or Windows (or UNIX?)

Post by Mike Stefan » Wed, 17 Jul 1991 12:27:59



|I remember hearing or reading an article which said that somebody
|somewhere made a clone of the Unix system, which was functionally
|complete. The great thing was that the author was selling it for only
|$100. The bad news is that I don't recall anything about the product,
|like the name or author. If anyone remembers anything like this, please
|post it, as I'm sure a lot of people would like to get in on this.

I think you're talking about MW's Coherent.  Comparable to UNIX like
a tricycle with training wheels is comparable to a 12-speed racing bike.

If you're looking for *source code* (who isn't?) then Minix is the
way to go.  It's not the real thing either, but Andy wrote something
worth cutting your teeth on, nonetheless.  Coherent?  Bah.  Give me
source, or give me UNIX!

Oh boy ... I can feel the flames now.  All those Coherent users coming
out of the closet, mad as hell. ;-)
--
Mike Stefanik, MGI Inc., Los Angeles -- Opinions stated are never realistic!
"He who inspects errno before a system call returns failure shall be buried
before he is dead." - Dan Bernstein

 
 
 

Need your opinions on selection of OS/2 or Windows (or UNIX?)

Post by Scott Purkers » Wed, 17 Jul 1991 16:12:43



>>  1. UNIX costs way to much (ie. $150 for OS/2, $2000 for UNIX).

>I remember hearing or reading an article which said that somebody
>somewhere made a clone of the Unix system, which was functionally
>complete. The great thing was that the author was selling it for only
>$100. The bad news is that I don't recall anything about the product,

It's the Coherent Operating system by Mark Williams Company. It
sells for $100+shipping.

The system does seem to be worth the price, but it has some
very limiting features.  You can read about it and ask questions
in "comp.os.coherent" newsgroup.  Most purchase it so they can
become acquainted with a UNIX-like OS.

At $150, I would think OS/2 is a much better deal (IMHO) because it
comes with GUI, can run DOS programs, and some other stuff that
others would be much more qualified to answer (i.e. program size
in Coherent currently is limited to 64K + 64K data (?)).

(just another 2 cents)
Scott
--
"The best thing about the future is that
 it comes only one day at a time." -Abe Lincoln

 
 
 

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Post by Jose Angel Vela Avi » Wed, 17 Jul 1991 23:44:25


 Well I read about a UNIX SYS V for $399 in Unix World ...

 But one thing is shure :

 Don't buy that ugly ! thing called Windows and called 'MULTITASKING' ja!

 Jose A. Vela Avila


   ITESM

 
 
 

Need your opinions on selection of OS/2 or Windows (or UNIX?)

Post by Don Clayt » Sun, 21 Jul 1991 03:48:13


Quote:>I remember hearing or reading an article which said that somebody
>somewhere made a clone of the Unix system, which was functionally
>complete. The great thing was that the author was selling it for only
>$100. The bad news is that I don't recall anything about the product,
>like the name or author. If anyone remembers anything like this, please
>post it, as I'm sure a lot of people would like to get in on this.

The name of the product is Coherent.  It requires 10 meg on the HD and will
run on 640k of RAM.  1 problem, it's 16 bit, no programs bigger than 64k.
It also comes with a C compiler, but no X.

As far as I know it still cost $2000 to get a developement environment for 32bit
UNIX with X.  OS/2 2.0 will be $200 and you can get a C compiler for $200 and OS/2 SDK
softset for $100, for a total of $500, a lot cheaper.

Don Clayton
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Post by Paul Chamberla » Sun, 28 Jul 1991 02:01:07



>As far as I know it still cost $2000 to get a developement environment for 32bit
>UNIX with X.  OS/2 2.0 will be $200 and you can get a C compiler for $200 and OS/2 SDK
>softset for $100, for a total of $500, a lot cheaper.

Yes, but then you have OS/2.

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Post by Larry Margol » Mon, 29 Jul 1991 01:49:11




> >As far as I know it still cost $2000 to get a developement environment for 32bi
> >UNIX with X.  OS/2 2.0 will be $200 and you can get a C compiler for $200 and O
> >softset for $100, for a total of $500, a lot cheaper.

> Yes, but then you have OS/2.

Yes - cheaper *and* better/more user friendly.


 
 
 

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Post by Peter da Sil » Fri, 02 Aug 1991 02:05:09



> > Yes, but then you have OS/2.
> Yes - cheaper *and* better/more user friendly.

Novice friendly, user hostile.
--
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Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012;         `-_-' "Have you hugged your wolf, today?"
 
 
 

Need your opinions on selection of OS/2 or Windows (or UNIX?)

Post by Larry Margol » Fri, 02 Aug 1991 23:35:54




> > > Yes, but then you have OS/2.

> > Yes - cheaper *and* better/more user friendly.

> Novice friendly, user hostile.

Perhaps if you're already accustomed to Unix's bizarre way of doing things, then
you find OS/2 awkward, but for someone who hasn't been so warped, I think OS/2
is *much* easier to use.


 
 
 

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Post by Peter da Sil » Thu, 08 Aug 1991 06:58:48



> Perhaps if you're already accustomed to Unix's bizarre way of doing things,
> then you find OS/2 awkward, but for someone who hasn't been so warped, I
> think OS/2 is *much* easier to use.

This is the new version of the Dykstra quote, eh? "Learning UNIX causes
permanent brain damage"?

I used VM/CMS and TOPS-20 before going on to UNIX, and it was like a breath
of fresh air. Later exposure to VAX/VMS, OS/1100, RSX-11/M, RMX-86, and
MS-DOS haven't changed my mind.

And that's without considering the API...
--
Peter da Silva; Ferranti International Controls Corporation; +1 713 274 5180;
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012;         `-_-' "Have you hugged your wolf, today?"

 
 
 

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Post by Chris Lew » Fri, 09 Aug 1991 04:45:41




>> Perhaps if you're already accustomed to Unix's bizarre way of doing things,
>> then you find OS/2 awkward, but for someone who hasn't been so warped, I
>> think OS/2 is *much* easier to use.
>This is the new version of the Dykstra quote, eh? "Learning UNIX causes
>permanent brain damage"?

I remember going to a DECUS conference many years ago (before DEC would admit
that UNIX existed), and I was sitting with the Canadian DECUS Chairman and
Treasurer, yawning our way thru an excrutiatingly boring 2 hour lecture on
the bit sequence in RSTS tape headers (killing time before my seminar on
Euclid).  The Chairman turned to me and said "I don't know what it is, but all
RSTS people are severely brain-damaged.  Particularly that guy.  And he's my
husband!"

Quote:>I used VM/CMS and TOPS-20 before going on to UNIX, and it was like a breath
>of fresh air. Later exposure to VAX/VMS, OS/1100, RSX-11/M, RMX-86, and
>MS-DOS haven't changed my mind.

In addition to VM/CMS and TOPS-20, I lived thru MFT, MVT, MVS, TSO, TOPS-10,
RT-11, and PICK before hitting UNIX.  What a relief...  I could actually
*do* things in UNIX rather than look up obscure abend codes in manuals
on the other side of the University.  (PICK wasn't so bad I will admit).
Subsequent exposure to FLEX, CP/M, DOS, VERSADOS, NOS/VE, and VMS hasn't changed
my mind.
--
Chris Lewis; UUCP: ...!{cunews,uunet,latour}!ecicrl!clewis;



 
 
 

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Post by Larry Salomon, J » Sat, 10 Aug 1991 15:42:34



Quote:>In addition to VM/CMS and TOPS-20, I lived thru MFT, MVT, MVS, TSO, TOPS-10,
>RT-11, and PICK before hitting UNIX.  What a relief...  I could actually
>*do* things in UNIX rather than look up obscure abend codes in manuals
>on the other side of the University.  (PICK wasn't so bad I will admit).
>Subsequent exposure to FLEX, CP/M, DOS, VERSADOS, NOS/VE, and VMS hasn't changed
>my mind.

...but have you used OS/2 ?  :)

Cheers,



Yorktown Heights, NY

 
 
 

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Post by Peter da Sil » Sun, 11 Aug 1991 06:57:27



> ...but have you used OS/2 ?  :)

No, but I've seen the application programming interface. Typical massive
set of system calls to do the same thing ump* different ways. How about
just picking one mechanism, design a simple interface, and sticking to it?
--
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Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012;         `-_-' "Have you hugged your wolf, today?"
 
 
 

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Post by Kai-Uwe Romm » Wed, 14 Aug 1991 05:22:31




>> ...but have you used OS/2 ?  :)

>No, but I've seen the application programming interface. Typical massive
>set of system calls to do the same thing ump* different ways. How about
>just picking one mechanism, design a simple interface, and sticking to it?

Such as the Unix ioctl() call?

Kai Uwe Rommel


DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams

 
 
 

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Post by Doug Gw » Wed, 14 Aug 1991 12:12:29





->> ...but have you used OS/2 ?  :)
->No, but I've seen the application programming interface. Typical massive
->set of system calls to do the same thing ump* different ways. How about
->just picking one mechanism, design a simple interface, and sticking to it?
-Such as the Unix ioctl() call?

No, ioctl() can and should be eliminated, to further simplify the I/O model.

 
 
 

1. About to take the plunge,....need opinions on OS....

I'm setting up a comp out of scrap parts to try out Linux for the first
time. It will be an AMD 350 / 64 mb ram / 2 gig hd / 56K modem. I have done
a bit of reading on the different OSs out there and am overwhelmed. It seems
that Mandrake or Redhat seem to be the 2 best ones for what I'm looking for.
I am quite experienced with Windows 3.1/95/98/ME, I want to go on the inet
with it and probably install it to my 3 PC network which currently runs Win
98 and ME. I don't want to start off with the most basic version but also
don't want the try the hardest either.

Can I get some opinions from the Linux techies on which OS I should choose
and why ?

Please email your replies also.

Thanks in advance.

---------------------------------------
Sean Harrison
Beaverbank, N.S.

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