Very Computer

Hi,

    Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.

    It contains much Vi related info and links to:

    - Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
    - Vi FAQs,
    - Tutorials,
    - FTP sites,
    - and much more,
    - jokes and the like.

    The Vi Lovers Home Page:

    http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

    Thomer Gil

Hi,

    Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.

    It contains much Vi related info and links to:

    - Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
    - Vi FAQs,
    - Tutorials,
    - FTP sites,
    - and much more,
    - jokes and the like.

    The Vi Lovers Home Page:

    http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html

    Thomer Gil

Quote:>     Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.

I got a mouse and a bit-mapped screen now. I've already served my time in
VT100 hell.

--
The fire cools and fear returns;     |                    - smr

The spectres spell in speeches fell; |   www.geocities.com/SoHo
their hatred hounds and horror burns.| /Studios/5079/index.html

Quote:>     Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.

I got a mouse and a bit-mapped screen now. I've already served my time in
VT100 hell.

--
The fire cools and fear returns;     |                    - smr

The spectres spell in speeches fell; |   www.geocities.com/SoHo
their hatred hounds and horror burns.| /Studios/5079/index.html

       Klaus Schilling

Quote:> >I got a mouse and a bit-mapped screen now. I've already served my time in
> >VT100 hell.

>  I trashed the bitmapped screen. Spending now all time in vt100 paradise.

--
The fire cools and fear returns;     |  I don't use no smilies.

The spectres spell in speeches fell; |   www.geocities.com/SoHo
their hatred hounds and horror burns.| /Studios/5079/index.html

Quote:> Well, back when I had to walk to school in the snow uphill both ways...

--
The fire cools and fear returns;     |  I don't use no smilies.

The spectres spell in speeches fell; |   www.geocities.com/SoHo
their hatred hounds and horror burns.| /Studios/5079/index.html

Trying to edit with a mouse is like trying to do surgery with a rock.

--

  `-_-'      "As the complexity of chips approaches the complexity of software.
   'U`        The behavior of chips approaches the behavior of software."

: I've got a mouse and a bitmapped screen and I love vi.

: Trying to edit with a mouse is like trying to do surgery with a rock.

: --

:   `-_-'      "As the complexity of chips approaches the complexity of software.
:    'U`        The behavior of chips approaches the behavior of software."

Obviously,  you've never used nedit.  And if you want vi with a mouse
get lemmy (www.softwareonline.org).  I use that to edit UNIX files when
I work from home.  It has builtin FTP - very sweet.

--
Dan Mercer

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.

Quote:> Obviously,  you've never used nedit.  And if you want vi with a mouse
> get lemmy (www.softwareonline.org).  I use that to edit UNIX files when
> I work from home.  It has builtin FTP - very sweet.

 Klaus Schilling

: > Obviously,  you've never used nedit.  And if you want vi with a mouse
: > get lemmy (www.softwareonline.org).  I use that to edit UNIX files when
: > I work from home.  It has builtin FTP - very sweet.

: The GNU emacs has also built-in ftp, nothing special. And it works well without
: a bitmapped screen and a rabid rodent.

:  Klaus Schilling

Since I normally have 20-30 windows up,  for me the bitmapped screen
and mouse are paramount.

--
Dan Mercer

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.

#> Obviously,  you've never used nedit.  And if you want vi with a mouse
#> get lemmy (www.softwareonline.org).  I use that to edit UNIX files when
#> I work from home.  It has builtin FTP - very sweet.

# The GNU emacs has also built-in ftp, nothing special.
# And it works well without
# a bitmapped screen and a rabid rodent.

Okaym enough of this thread. That'll plug your blabbermouths ;-)

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Quote:>From  the why ed is good file I saw posted here once:

When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow.  They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'.  So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.

Ed, man!  !man ed

ED(1)               UNIX Programmer's Manual                ED(1)

NAME
     ed - text editor

SYNOPSIS
     ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
     Ed is the standard text editor.
---

Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard.  Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair.  Just look:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root          24 Oct 29  1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t  4 root     1310720 Jan  1  1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  5.89824e37 Oct 22  1990 /usr/bin/emacs

Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:

golem> ed

?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?

---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage.  Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

TEXT EDITOR.

When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi?  No.  Emacs?  Surely
you jest.  They chose the most karmic editor of all.  The standard.

Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on.  If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs.  If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi.  If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION.  THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!!  THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!

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