opportunity to participate in new product rollout

opportunity to participate in new product rollout

Post by George Marc Cars » Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:36:41



we have a persistent object database engine for DOS/MVS/OS2/UNIX that
interfaces directly to ANSI C code -- the MS-DOS 80286 runtime library,
C headers, function API doc and sample application may be licensed at
this time for $20;  execution of a "reasonable" nondisclosure agreement
is required for other distributions -- this is an Alpha release

C_Monster allows you to "roll your own" application -- it acts as
a repository for your objects and provides for complete, classical
object oriented data modeling, as well as flexible and sophisticated
retrieval techniques;  both full and partial data encapsulation are
supported, and while method logic is bound at compile time, method
invocation is context dependent;  dynamic binding of attributes and
relationships is achieved without sacrificing performance or storage

*YOU* may be able to help us bring this product to market -- we
will certainly work with you on licensing, and our policy regarding
royalties is specifically designed to help new developers get going

if you need support for another compiler or platform, we may discuss
forming a restricted source distribution agreement, depending on cost;
theoretically, any 32-bit platform with ANSI C can be supported,
and as of this time, the *only* platform_specific logic in our
plans is EBCDIC-to-ASCII translation for the 370/MVS version

extensions we want to see include:

        <*>       sample classes for popular objects,
                particularly graphical and game-related

        <*>       interpretive ODB class editor,
                preferably supporting ASN.1

        <*>       interactive database browser/editor

        <*>       c++ interface layer

please send a check or money order to cover handling costs
($20 US) for a copy of the alpha, so you may review the
materials before proceeding...

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opportunity to participate in new product rollout

Post by George Marc Cars » Sun, 06 Mar 1994 10:37:18


we have a persistent object database engine for DOS/MVS/OS2/UNIX that
interfaces directly to ANSI C code -- the MS-DOS 80286 runtime library,
C headers, function API doc and sample application may be licensed at
this time for $20;  execution of a "reasonable" nondisclosure agreement
is required for other distributions -- this is an Alpha release

C_Monster allows you to "roll your own" application -- it acts as
a repository for your objects and provides for complete, classical
object oriented data modeling, as well as flexible and sophisticated
retrieval techniques;  both full and partial data encapsulation are
supported, and while method logic is bound at compile time, method
invocation is context dependent;  dynamic binding of attributes and
relationships is achieved without sacrificing performance or storage

*YOU* may be able to help us bring this product to market -- we
will certainly work with you on licensing, and our policy regarding
royalties is specifically designed to help new developers get going

if you need support for another compiler or platform, we may discuss
forming a restricted source distribution agreement, depending on cost;
theoretically, any 32-bit platform with ANSI C can be supported,
and as of this time, the *only* platform_specific logic in our
plans is EBCDIC-to-ASCII translation for the 370/MVS version

extensions we want to see include:

        <*>       sample classes for popular objects,
                particularly graphical and game-related

        <*>       interpretive ODB class editor,
                preferably supporting ASN.1

        <*>       interactive database browser/editor

        <*>       c++ interface layer

please send a check or money order to cover handling costs
($20 US) for a copy of the alpha, so you may review the
materials before proceeding...

--
/------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| SMILE! George Marc Carsey                             GCAR Enterprises |

|                                                       Arlington, Texas |
| voice (817) 467-0173, metro pager (214) 344-1552                 76017 |
\------------------------------------------------------------------------/

 
 
 

opportunity to participate in new product rollout

Post by Stan Bro » Mon, 07 Mar 1994 23:06:51



Quote:>we have a persistent object database engine for DOS/MVS/OS2/UNIX that
>interfaces directly to ANSI C code -- the MS-DOS 80286 runtime library,
>C headers, function API doc and sample application may be licensed at
>this time for $20;  execution of a "reasonable" nondisclosure agreement
>is required for other distributions -- this is an Alpha release

We heard you the first time you posted this.

I sympathize with your desire to sell your products, but the Internet is
not supposed to be used for commercial purposes.
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opportunity to participate in new product rollout

Post by Mark Brad » Tue, 08 Mar 1994 04:25:08


Stan Brown writes in several newsgroups:

Quote:> I sympathize with your desire to sell your products, but the Internet is
> not supposed to be used for commercial purposes.

I would like to point out that this (by which I mean comp.lang.c,
comp.unix.programmer, etc., where this article is appearing) is not
the Internet; this is Usenet.  Just because many sites are on both
networks and these often use the Internet to transport Usenet articles,
and because the press seems to mostly use the term Internet for both,
does not mean that they are the same thing.

(For example, SoftQuad is not on the Internet.  We have an Internet
mail address, but that just means our mail is forwarded from a site
that is on it.)

Among other differences, Usenet has no formal organization and therefore
has *no* rules other than guidelines that have evolved by consensus.

One of these, however, is

| Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet is allowed;
| however, since someone else is paying the phone bills for this, it is
| important that it be of overall benefit to Usenet.  Post to the
| appropriate newsgroup -- comp.newprod -- never to a general purpose
| newsgroup such as "misc.misc".  Clearly mark your article as a product
| announcement in the subject.  Never repeat these -- one article per
| product at the most; preferably group everything into one article.
| Advertising hype is especially frowned upon -- stick to technical
| facts.  Obnoxious or inappropriate announcements or articles violating
| this policy will generally be rejected.  This policy is, of course,
| subject to change if it becomes a problem.

Therefore it was correct to object to the article that Stan was responding
to.  But let's make those objections for the right reasons, okay?

Usenet is being used for commercial purposes whenever someone at a
business site posts a query and incorporates the result in their work.
And that's not exactly uncommon.  If admins of sites on both networks
choose to route Usenet postings over the Internet despite this, that's
their responsibility.  But it doesn't make Usenet users subject to
Internet rules, except as a matter of their own site's policy.

Followups directed to news.admin.policy.
--
Mark Brader             "Oh, especially if it's accurate. There's nothing worse
utzoo!sq!msb             than *accurate*, ill-informed, irresponsible press

This article is in the public domain.

 
 
 

1. opportunity to participate...

there is a sample application that is painfully easy to understand
but does not exploit the more subtle capabilities of the system...

as alluded in my posting, there are large components missing,
which are sorely needed if the product is to become successful,
but the engine is devastatingly efficient -- my instructor, who
was a PhD object database specialist visiting UTD from UCLA, did
not even believe it would be possible (he gave me a 120 on the
project, which was effectively a prototype for the current system)
the api defines a data model -- single inheritence, much like SmallTalk

the implementation defines an architecture in some respects, such as the
fact that the methods are "linked" into the application, but that could
be accomodated in a number of ways by a creative developer -- I will be
happy to help DESIGN anything a prospective "cooperative developer" is
ready to work on, within my time constraints...
do you want to show off by writing a smartass memo,
or by developing
some kickass software???

if the latter, send me twenty bucks

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| SMILE! George Marc Carsey                             GCAR Enterprises |

|                                                       Arlington, Texas |
| voice (817) 467-0173, metro pager (214) 344-1552                 76017 |
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