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Quote:>Well,the earlier query said that 2.2 was already due out by the end of this
>summer(Septemberish)...it's been almost six months since 2.1R hit the FTP
>sites,so if there is an every-six-months frequency,one would expect 2.1.1
>to be imminent,and 2.2 not to be with us until near year-end...

After that you are able to checkout the -current tree and
to setup your system to receive CVS repository updates via
e-mail on a daily basis. So you can get day for day new
wonderful changes and you are directly on the way to 2.2.0.

So do I and I'm very satisfied with this method. Doing a
make world every now and then updates your OS to the newest
release.

        Andreas ///

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: >Well,the earlier query said that 2.2 was already due out by the end of this
: >summer(Septemberish)...it's been almost six months since 2.1R hit the FTP
: >sites,so if there is an every-six-months frequency,one would expect 2.1.1
: >to be imminent,and 2.2 not to be with us until near year-end...
:
: Louis, if you are impatient, then subscribe to the FreeBSD 2.2
: snap release CD, that gives you access to the full CVS repository.
: The latest is just out. The CD ships immediately after your
: order via WWW.

Not particularly impatient,just looking to understand the schedule.
I run an ISP and want things with their kinks worked out,so am more
concerned with 2.1.1's apparent slippage.

(I just got the promo on SNAP CD subscriptions today...)

: After that you are able to checkout the -current tree and
: to setup your system to receive CVS repository updates via
: e-mail on a daily basis. So you can get day for day new
: wonderful changes and you are directly on the way to 2.2.0.
:
: So do I and I'm very satisfied with this method. Doing a
: make world every now and then updates your OS to the newest
: release.

But doesn't this lose you your own recompiles?
I've enabled 12-character UserIDs on my system,
wouldn't want the default 8 coming back every
time.I expect my upgrades to be stable release
versions.

: :
: : >Well,the earlier query said that 2.2 was already due out by the end of this
: : >summer(Septemberish)...it's been almost six months since 2.1R hit the FTP
: : >sites,so if there is an every-six-months frequency,one would expect 2.1.1
: : >to be imminent,and 2.2 not to be with us until near year-end...
: :
: : Louis, if you are impatient, then subscribe to the FreeBSD 2.2
: : snap release CD, that gives you access to the full CVS repository.
: : The latest is just out. The CD ships immediately after your
: : order via WWW.
:
: Not particularly impatient,just looking to understand the schedule.

Understandable.

: I run an ISP and want things with their kinks worked out,so am more
: concerned with 2.1.1's apparent slippage.

You get what you pay for.  :)

: (I just got the promo on SNAP CD subscriptions today...)
:  
: : After that you are able to checkout the -current tree and
: : to setup your system to receive CVS repository updates via
: : e-mail on a daily basis. So you can get day for day new
: : wonderful changes and you are directly on the way to 2.2.0.
: :
: : So do I and I'm very satisfied with this method. Doing a
: : make world every now and then updates your OS to the newest
: : release.
:
: But doesn't this lose you your own recompiles?
: I've enabled 12-character UserIDs on my system,
: wouldn't want the default 8 coming back every
: time.I expect my upgrades to be stable release
: versions.

Stable upgrades?  Then you might want to get BSD/OS
and a support contract.  :-)

Chris

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Since you are interested in -stable, you have to run

cd /usr/src
cvs -q update -r RELENG_2_1_0 -Pd
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^_______ that's the tag for the -stable branch

This has the added benefit that you've also got the current
development tree handy as well.  If you wanna know about the latest
and greatest disklabel program, you can e.g.:

cd /tmp
cvs co disklabel
<examine it...>
rm -rf disklabel

If you've seen a particular interesting commit message on the commit
mailing list, with a long overdue bug fix mentioned, you can even try
the fix before somebody was convinced enough that this one should also
go into -stable.

The only drawback is apparent: about 200 MB disk space for the CVS
tree.

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Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)

I'm starting a new FreeBSD-powered WebSite and would like to be able to
bypass this limit.

Thanks much,

Ken

Quote:

>All right, I don't mind admitting I'm relatively new to both Unix and to
>FreeBSD. Could you please enlighten me on how you extended UserIDs to
>more than 8 characters? I found the check in the adduser program, but
>even when I changed that it didn't work right. What else do I need to do,
>pray tell?

If you want to do this, you'll need the whole of the src distribution
(not just the kernel) and change the line in /usr/include/utmp.h which
says

#define     UT_NAMESIZE     8

Then do 'make world' in /usr/src, build a new kernel and reboot.

(NB the limit is set at 8 to be compatible with NIS. If you increase
it, you won't be able to use NIS any more. If you don't know what that
means, you probably aren't using it 8-)

Quote:>I'm starting a new FreeBSD-powered WebSite and would like to be able to
>bypass this limit.

averylongusernameindeed: someone

and doing 'mkaliases' will result in mail addressed to
'averylongusernameindeed' being sent to someone's mailbox instead.

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] > But doesn't this lose you your own recompiles?
] > I've enabled 12-character UserIDs on my system,
] > wouldn't want the default 8 coming back every
] > time.I expect my upgrades to be stable release
] > versions.
]
] All right, I don't mind admitting I'm relatively new to both
] Unix and to FreeBSD. Could you please enlighten me on how you
] extended UserIDs to more than 8 characters? I found the check
] in the adduser program, but even when I changed that it didn't
] work right. What else do I need to do, pray tell?
]
] I'm starting a new FreeBSD-powered WebSite and would like to
] be able to bypass this limit.

This is in the FAQ and in the handbook.

You do it by changing a header file and recompiling everything
that uses hte constant.

When you do this, you break NIS interoperability; basically, you
can kiss it goodbye.  This is an inherenet limit in NIS that can't
change without changing the wire protocol.

Without NIS, you can pretty much kiss NFS goodbye.

Are you sure you want to do this?  If so, go to www.freebsd.org
and look up the FAQ entry.  It's not something I'd like to see
become popular.  8-(.

                                        Terry Lambert

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Quote:

> (NB the limit is set at 8 to be compatible with NIS. If you increase
> it, you won't be able to use NIS any more. If you don't know what that
> means, you probably aren't using it 8-)

Quote:

> >I'm starting a new FreeBSD-powered WebSite and would like to be able to
> >bypass this limit.

> If you just want to do this to get long usernames in email addresses,
> a much simpler way is to set up mail aliases. For example, if you use
> sendmail, adding a line in /etc/aliases like

> averylongusernameindeed: someone

> and doing 'mkaliases' will result in mail addressed to
> 'averylongusernameindeed' being sent to someone's mailbox instead.

Thanks again for the info!

Ken

Sorry.

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