Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Post by Joh » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:03:20


1) There is a mini install image thats about 200MB which I guess is
the minimum you need to get a working system.

2) There is the full install thats about 800MB so split over two
disks, 1st is 600MB second is 200MB

I can't find a definitive readme explaining whats the difference
between these two installs.

Question - why not just make one set of disk the*being 200MB and
is the mini-instal and the second being 600MB with everything else on
it.

OK, I know all the 'other packages are missing' but as the site says
these can be downloaded after installing the system.

 
 
 

Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Post by Peter W » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:43:45


    John> 1) There is a mini install image thats about 200MB which I guess
    John> is the minimum you need to get a working system.

Correct. No ports on this CD.

    John> 2) There is the full install thats about 800MB so split over two
    John> disks, 1st is 600MB second is 200MB

I suggest you consult the handbook, which provided detailed information
about them.

    John> I can't find a definitive readme explaining whats the difference
    John> between these two installs.

http://www.veryComputer.com/

    John> Question - why not just make one set of disk the*being
    John> 200MB and is the mini-instal and the second being 600MB with
    John> everything else on it.

Everything is not on that 600MB. There are some common packages in that CD.

    John> OK, I know all the 'other packages are missing' but as the site
    John> says these can be downloaded after installing the system.

Yes. Install ports when prompted during the setup and, again, consult the
handbook for detailed instructions on how to install from ports.

--
Peter Wu

 
 
 

Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Post by Kris Kennawa » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:00:04



> 1) There is a mini install image thats about 200MB which I guess is
> the minimum you need to get a working system.

> 2) There is the full install thats about 800MB so split over two
> disks, 1st is 600MB second is 200MB

> I can't find a definitive readme explaining whats the difference
> between these two installs.

The second one has some common packages on it, the first does not.

Quote:> Question - why not just make one set of disk the*being 200MB and
> is the mini-instal and the second being 600MB with everything else on
> it.

That wouldn't be particularly useful.  People who download the 600MB
ISO do so because they want a single ISO containing both FreeBSD and
the common packages.

Kris

 
 
 

Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Post by Zeni » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:47:30



:> 1) There is a mini install image thats about 200MB which I guess is the
:> minimum you need to get a working system.
:>
:> 2) There is the full install thats about 800MB so split over two disks,
:> 1st is 600MB second is 200MB
:>
:> I can't find a definitive readme explaining whats the difference
:> between these two installs.
:
: The second one has some common packages on it, the first does not.
:
:> Question - why not just make one set of disk the*being 200MB and is
:> the mini-instal and the second being 600MB with everything else on it.
:
: That wouldn't be particularly useful.  People who download the 600MB ISO
: do so because they want a single ISO containing both FreeBSD and the
: common packages.

        Personally, I'd prefer a disk that's just like the mini, except it
        includes one extra package: cvsup-bin.  I build everything from
        ports, but cvsup is needed (ok, you can use raw cvs, but why?) to
        "boot strap" ports.

        The result is if I'm installing a new system, I basically am
        downloading 400MB extra simply to have cvsup available in the
        install.  Am I alone in this?

        Of course, it's not often I install FreeBSD, as the only real reason
        to do so is when setting up a new machine.

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Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Post by David Hawort » Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:32:12


Quote:> The result is if I'm installing a new system, I basically am
> downloading 400MB extra simply to have cvsup available in the
> install.  Am I alone in this?

I kind of agree, I think that someone should recode cvsup in C (or
wrapper cvs) and make
it part of the base system, but if you buyild everything from source
then I assume you have internet access, so why not just "pkg_add -r
cvsup" ? (or cvsup-without-gui)? and then you can grab the mini iso and
just download the one binary package you need?

dave

 
 
 

Am I missing something with the 5.0 ISO images?

Post by Zeni » Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:16:39


:> The result is if I'm installing a new system, I basically am
:> downloading 400MB extra simply to have cvsup available in the
:> install.  Am I alone in this?
:
: I kind of agree, I think that someone should recode cvsup in C (or wrapper
: cvs) and make it part of the base system, but if you buyild everything
: from source then I assume you have internet access, so why not just
: "pkg_add -r cvsup" ? (or cvsup-without-gui)? and then you can grab the
: mini iso and just download the one binary package you need?

        I'll probably play with that on my next install (which of course,
        may be a year or more away, but hey:-) Honestly I haven't looked
        into the pkg_* utilities much at all, especially in recent years.  I
        thought for -r I needed the exact package name (version and all,
        etc) as well as full URL to the package file.  Maybe I was mistaken,
        or this was enhanced since I looked at it before.  If it's just '-r
        cvsup' then yah, it's mini-ISOs from here on. :-)

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Post by Ean Kingsto » Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:42:35



> I'll probably play with that on my next install (which of course,
> may be a year or more away, but hey:-) Honestly I haven't looked
> into the pkg_* utilities much at all, especially in recent years.  I
> thought for -r I needed the exact package name (version and all,
> etc) as well as full URL to the package file.  Maybe I was mistaken,
> or this was enhanced since I looked at it before.  If it's just '-r
> cvsup' then yah, it's mini-ISOs from here on. :-)

It's sort of enhanced. The kind folks that maintain the ftp server have soft
links for the pkg_add -r option so that you get the latest build they have
without needing to specify the version number.  So 'pkg_add -r cvsup' will
get you the latest build of cvsup on the mirror you choose to get it from
(defined in an environment variable I belive) or the main site if you don't
configure a mirror.

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