:>Many of the newer systems we're building don't have floopy disks installed
:>at all, making Internet installs of FreeBSD and OpenBSD problematic. For
:>FreeBSD I've been using the ISO images, but it's a big download and most of
:>it I won't end up installing anyway. For OpenBSD I'm SOL AFAIK and find
:>myself borrowing a floopy from another machine just for the install.
And more power to them, IMHO.
: Most new Intel/compatible PCs include 1.44 MB floppy drive, as far as I
: can see, though there are some stripped-down "legacy-free" PCs.
We typically build our low and mid level machines from separate
components. Until you start approaching the $5k range or such (eg,
intended for server use), pretty much all prebuilt venders offer
: Considering how low the price for a floppy drive, I can't see any good
: reason not to have one.
Another piece to go wrong (reliability). -I've had machines refuse
to boot because of a failing floppy drive. I've also had more
floopy drives go bad then all other hardware put together with
issues from simply not reading to shorting out the p/s and frying
Another method to gain access to the system (security). If someone
untrusted has physical access to the machine, you've already got big
problems, but no need to hand them a key just because they made it
to the castle gates.
: For the new computer I am thinking of buying, I am considering the
: possibility of an LS-120 drive: 120 MB with the ability to read/write 1.44
: MB and 720 KB diskettes.
Currently, the only removable media I've found a use for are CDR/RW,
and it has been that way for quite a while (years). OpenBSD
installs are the only things I can think of (thus this thread); I
honestly can't remember the last time I used a floppy disk that
wasn't for an OpenBSD install.
I do use Zip drives, but only on the security monitoring systems
(tripwire databases, etc).
: Considering that some boot images > 1.44 MB, I would like to be able to
: make a boot disk on higher-capacity removable media, such as LS-120, Zip,
: Jaz, MO, or CD-R or CD-RW.
CD-R, CD-RW, and Zip can be booted. -Zip is easy, just use dd and
the 2.88 floopy image like it was a big floppy.
: Or boot from an image file on the hard disk, as Linux can be booted from
: DOS with LOADLIN. This would be preferable to needing three diskettes to
: boot, as is done for installing or repairing OS/2 Warp 4.
IOW, forget floopies exist and use a modern media format. You've
just detailed why floopy drives are almost completely pointless in
this day and age, thanks. :-)
BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".