can fat32 partition be mounted?

can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Cengiz Alaettinogl » Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:00:00



Hi,

Can Fat32 partitions be mounted in freebsd?
I think the answer is no. But I wanted to make sure. What are my
options?

Thanks.

Cengiz

 
 
 

can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Brian Some » Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:00:00




Quote:> Hi,

> Can Fat32 partitions be mounted in freebsd?
> I think the answer is no. But I wanted to make sure. What are my
> options?

The can, but the long filenames aren't understood.  Also, beware of
the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.

You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.

Quote:> Thanks.

> Cengiz

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can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Mark Hea » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00




: > Can Fat32 partitions be mounted in freebsd?
: > I think the answer is no. But I wanted to make sure. What are my
: > options?

: The can, but the long filenames aren't understood.  Also, beware of
: the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
: unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.
: You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.

I think your confusing VFAT for FAT32.

As we are all aware that there is development for FAT32 under Linux.  So
it shouldn't be long until it's ported? maybe?

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can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Joel Ray Holvec » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Quote:>>> Can Fat32 partitions be mounted in freebsd?
>>> I think the answer is no. But I wanted to make sure. What are my
>>> options?
>> The can, but the long filenames aren't understood.  Also, beware of
>> the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
>> unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.
>> You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.
> I think your confusing VFAT for FAT32.
> As we are all aware that there is development for FAT32 under Linux.  So
> it shouldn't be long until it's ported? maybe?

In the meantime, we can use Mtools 3.6, just released.  The release
notice follows.


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can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Cengiz Alaettinogl » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00




> The can, but the long filenames aren't understood. Also, beware of
> the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
> unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.

> You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.

Thanks. Are you referring to the
"root directory is not a multiple of the cluster size in lehgth"
warning I was getting?

I unmounted the partition and deleted it from fstab. As far as I can see
no damage is done yet. I have FreeBSD 2.2.1.

I will check mtools.

Thanks.

Cengiz

 
 
 

can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Cengiz Alaettinogl » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00



> I think your confusing VFAT for FAT32.

Partition Magic under Windows says the partition is FAT32, freeBSD fdisk
says sysid 11 (unknown). Is this a VFAT partition?

Cengiz

 
 
 

can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by kient.. » Sun, 20 Apr 1997 04:00:00





>> I think your confusing VFAT for FAT32.
>Partition Magic under Windows says the partition is FAT32, freeBSD fdisk
>says sysid 11 (unknown). Is this a VFAT partition?

Probably both VFAT and FAT32.

VFAT refers to Win95's technique for squeezing long Unicode file names
into an MSDOS-compatible directory.  It involves storing two separate
file names: one short MSDOS-compatible name, and a longer name stored
in special directory entries that are marked so that most systems
will ignore them.  In particular, most systems that read/write MSDOS
disks can use VFAT volumes, even though they may only see the short names.
The name comes from the name of the Win95 FAT file-system module.

FAT32 refers to a different way of structuring the FAT allocation
table to support larger volumes.  This was introduced by Microsoft
with an updated version of Windows 95 (early Win95 doesn't support it,
either).  Earlier versions are FAT16 and FAT12.

FreeBSD 2.1 (which I'm using) does not support either one, although I
do personally use it to read/write to VFAT/FAT16 volumes.  (The Win95 long
names occasionally get lost, but that's no big problem for me.)

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can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Phillip Musumec » Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Hi,
   I believe that MTOOLS 3.6 can handle this stuff.  There is a package of
it at

        ftp://pm.cse.rmit.edu.au/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-local-packages/mtools-3.6

and the mtools.conf file in the package mentions how to handle 1.74M
floppies and has drive designations for PCEMU's boot floppy and some sample
hard disk DOS file systems.

phillip

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can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Brian Some » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00






>> The can, but the long filenames aren't understood. Also, beware of
>> the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
>> unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.

>> You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.

> Thanks. Are you referring to the
> "root directory is not a multiple of the cluster size in lehgth"
> warning I was getting?

That's the one !  Run away !!!!

Quote:> I unmounted the partition and deleted it from fstab. As far as I can see
> no damage is done yet. I have FreeBSD 2.2.1.

Good deal.

Quote:> I will check mtools.

> Thanks.

> Cengiz

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can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Dan Ts' » Fri, 02 May 1997 04:00:00





> The can, but the long filenames aren't understood. Also, beware of
> the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
> unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.

> You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.

        But mtools really isn't a substitute is it ? It doesn't let you
mount FAT.
        Maybe ok for copying a few files, but I have 500Mb DOS files that
I don't want to have to copy around, merely use.
        Is it at least safe to mount the FAT filesystem read-only ?
 
 
 

can fat32 partition be mounted?

Post by Brian Some » Fri, 02 May 1997 04:00:00







>> The can, but the long filenames aren't understood. Also, beware of
>> the bug !  If you see something that says your cluster size is wrong,
>> unmount it immediately or you'll suffer.

>> You'd be better to use mtools.  I believe they support long filenames.

>    But mtools really isn't a substitute is it ? It doesn't let you
> mount FAT.
>    Maybe ok for copying a few files, but I have 500Mb DOS files that
> I don't want to have to copy around, merely use.

Work on a new driver is underway - no estimates yet though.

Quote:>    Is it at least safe to mount the FAT filesystem read-only ?

I'm not sure, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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/dev/hda6             247871   35465   199606     15%   /usr/local

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