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Hello!

 [our newsserver doesn't post at the moment, therefore i'm sending
this thru dejanews, please post answers or mail me at the address
below.]

happened on 2 mailing lists, their list owners and FreeBSD-gnats-submit,
no bounces, the messages just disappear.  My `ISP' just changed from a
class C to a smaller subnet and is now running NAT, could that have
something to do with it?  Any help greatly appreciated...

 Thanx and Regards,
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Its up again, or so i hope...

 Is there nobody who can help me with that?  Is this some kind of
blacklisting mail server `feature'?  Are my (small, yes, but anyway)
contributions to the FreeBSD project not wanted anymore?  Who would
decide this anyway?  Or should i just keep trying *sigh*.

 Thanx and Regards,
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Are you behind a firewall that does not route mail to the
outside world?

Is your ISP spammer friendly?  This will get your ISP black listed.

PS:  I'm interested in your contributions.

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Steve

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Quote:> Is your ISP spammer friendly?  This will get your ISP black listed.

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How do you discover if your ISP is spammer friendly? other than trying
it yourself and getting booted...

Jim

You could ask ;-)

You can also go to www.orbs.org and www.sendmail.org and probably
other sites.  Read the pages and follow links.

See if you have /etc/mail/README.  Read the file and follow you
instincts.

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Steve

FreeBSD-gnats-submit,

Quote:> no bounces, the messages just disappear.  My `ISP' just changed from a
> class C to a smaller subnet and is now running NAT, could that have
> something to do with it?  Any help greatly appreciated...

NAT, NAT, NAT!. That is one problem. Your ISP's address must be in
FreeBSD's sendmail black list. Can you send e-mail any other place?. If
so, that is the problem. Also I would complain to your ISP about NAT,
becauses there are many applications that won't work behind a NAT
machine. We have a FreeBSD connecting 5 machines the the net with
ip-aliasing, and one provider we had did the NAT on their system, and
all of a sudden quicktime 4  and other audio apps behind our FreeBSD
server wouldn't work. When i looked at my IP address it was 10.0.1.111
!, an intranet IP ( We changed prividers in a quicktime! :) ). So they
are trying to save IP's, and really NAT should be for companies
connected to ISP, and not for ISP's connected to the net. I guess they
learned our tricks :).

Hope this helps,

Karl Wagner
San Juan, PR

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Quote:>Are you behind a firewall that does not route mail to the
>outside world?
>...

Well...  turns out my ISP's rmail (i'm doing mail via uucp-over-tcp
cause that keeps the connection times down, cause there ain't no flat
rates here in germany :/ ) suddenly doesn't relay outgoing mail anymore,

So freebsd.org's sendmail is completely innocent!  Sorry i didn't check
that earlier...

Quote:>PS:  I'm interested in your contributions.

 Still that's nice to hear :)

 Regards,
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|>
|> You can also go to www.orbs.org

www.orbs.org is gone.  I seem to recall there was some legal snafu
over what they were doing.

bill

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Are you sure?

lynx www.orbs.org

brings up a nice web page.  Not to mention, orbs sent me a message
(about 2 weeks ago) about an old dec alphastation that had an open
relay (which has been fixed).

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|> >|>
|> >|> You can also go to www.orbs.org
|> >
|> > www.orbs.org is gone.  I seem to recall there was some legal snafu
|> > over what they were doing.
|> >
|>
|> Are you sure?
|>
|> lynx www.orbs.org
|>
|> brings up a nice web page.  Not to mention, orbs sent me a message
|> (about 2 weeks ago) about an old dec alphastation that had an open
|> relay (which has been fixed).

I withdraw my original comment.  I had been told that ORBS was gone and
when I did a "ping www.orbs.org" I got back "unresolvable hostname".

I even got it once today.  But after trying "lynx www.orbs.org" and
getting connected even ping now works.

Go figure.

bill

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