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> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#FREEBS...
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>> The original message was received at Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:01:17 +0800 (CST)
>> from localhost [127.0.0.1]

>>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

>>    (reason: 554 <localhost.localdomain>: Helo command rejected: Access denied)

> No need to go further you are not allowed to talk to freebsd. Why is it so?
> In order to get away with some spam, the freebsd mail server only accepts
> connections from hosts which have a reverse entry in the DNS. No chance this
> is the case with localhost.localdomain.

>>> The original message was received at Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:01:17 +0800 (CST)
>>> from localhost [127.0.0.1]

>>>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

>>>    (reason: 554 <localhost.localdomain>: Helo command rejected: Access denied)

>> No need to go further you are not allowed to talk to freebsd. Why is it so?
>> In order to get away with some spam, the freebsd mail server only accepts
>> connections from hosts which have a reverse entry in the DNS. No chance this
>> is the case with localhost.localdomain.
> After reading the FAQ at FreeBSD.ORG, I finally realized that the problem
> resides at my side. :(
>> Solution, for you Peter, you have to send all your outbound mail to your
>> provider (whose mail server is hopefully declared in the DNS). For Postfix,
>> this is the syntax, in main.cf

>> relayhost = [parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr]

>> Here the brackets are to avoid a MX lookup which would lead to a different
>> machine, which in turn would reject my mail :-)
> Yes, I decide to relay my mails to my provider. BUT the problem is that
> my provider's SMTP server requires SMTP AUTH... Sigh...

>>>> The original message was received at Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:01:17 +0800 (CST)
>>>> from localhost [127.0.0.1]

>>>>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

>>>>    (reason: 554 <localhost.localdomain>: Helo command rejected: Access denied)

>>> No need to go further you are not allowed to talk to freebsd. Why is it so?
>>> In order to get away with some spam, the freebsd mail server only accepts
>>> connections from hosts which have a reverse entry in the DNS. No chance this
>>> is the case with localhost.localdomain.

>> After reading the FAQ at FreeBSD.ORG, I finally realized that the problem
>> resides at my side. :(

>>> Solution, for you Peter, you have to send all your outbound mail to your
>>> provider (whose mail server is hopefully declared in the DNS). For Postfix,
>>> this is the syntax, in main.cf

>>> relayhost = [parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr]

>>> Here the brackets are to avoid a MX lookup which would lead to a different
>>> machine, which in turn would reject my mail :-)

>> Yes, I decide to relay my mails to my provider. BUT the problem is that
>> my provider's SMTP server requires SMTP AUTH... Sigh...

>          See if nbsmtp won't do the trick.  Sendmail is hard (i.e.
>          impossible) to configure to tell the truth.  It believes it
>          knows better than you do and that if you tell it something
>          other than what it thinks it knows, it will assume you are
>          lying.  In fact, sendmail sucks on a large number of issues,
>          but somehow or another it got wedded to FreeBSD as part of
>          the core - possibly a very long time ago it was the best
>          thing available and someone thought that would continue to
>          be the case.  As it turns out, that is not the case, but
>          sendmail is evidently too deeply embedded in FreeBSD to be
>          removed safely.  You have to have it.  But mercifully it has
>          become possible lately to turn it off.  You may want to let
>          sendmail carry system messages, but if you want actually to
>          send mail, install nbsmtp from the ports.

>>>>> The original message was received at Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:01:17 +0800 (CST)
>>>>> from localhost [127.0.0.1]

>>>>>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

>>>>>    (reason: 554 <localhost.localdomain>: Helo command rejected: Access denied)

>>>> No need to go further you are not allowed to talk to freebsd. Why is it so?
>>>> In order to get away with some spam, the freebsd mail server only accepts
>>>> connections from hosts which have a reverse entry in the DNS. No chance this
>>>> is the case with localhost.localdomain.

>>> After reading the FAQ at FreeBSD.ORG, I finally realized that the problem
>>> resides at my side. :(

>>>> Solution, for you Peter, you have to send all your outbound mail to your
>>>> provider (whose mail server is hopefully declared in the DNS). For Postfix,
>>>> this is the syntax, in main.cf

>>>> relayhost = [parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr]

>>>> Here the brackets are to avoid a MX lookup which would lead to a different
>>>> machine, which in turn would reject my mail :-)

>>> Yes, I decide to relay my mails to my provider. BUT the problem is that
>>> my provider's SMTP server requires SMTP AUTH... Sigh...

>>          See if nbsmtp won't do the trick.  Sendmail is hard (i.e.
>>          impossible) to configure to tell the truth.  It believes it
>>          knows better than you do and that if you tell it something
>>          other than what it thinks it knows, it will assume you are
>>          lying.  In fact, sendmail sucks on a large number of issues,
>>          but somehow or another it got wedded to FreeBSD as part of
>>          the core - possibly a very long time ago it was the best
>>          thing available and someone thought that would continue to
>>          be the case.  As it turns out, that is not the case, but
>>          sendmail is evidently too deeply embedded in FreeBSD to be
>>          removed safely.  You have to have it.  But mercifully it has
>>          become possible lately to turn it off.  You may want to let
>>          sendmail carry system messages, but if you want actually to
>>          send mail, install nbsmtp from the ports.
> I just chekced mail/nbsmtp in the ports but don't read it can relay mails
> to an SMTP server that requires authentication. I think the cause why
> sendmail does not work is that I did not configure it correctly due to my
> lack of knowledge of it.

> Warning! the freebsd mailing lists now trust Spamcop, and for example
> e-mail relayed by my ISP (Proxad / free.fr) is bounced with a 554 error.

>>> The original message was received at Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:01:17 +0800 (CST)
>>> from localhost [127.0.0.1]

>>>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

>>>    (reason: 554 <localhost.localdomain>: Helo command rejected: Access denied)

>> No need to go further you are not allowed to talk to freebsd. Why is it so?
>> In order to get away with some spam, the freebsd mail server only accepts
>> connections from hosts which have a reverse entry in the DNS. No chance this
>> is the case with localhost.localdomain.

>After reading the FAQ at FreeBSD.ORG, I finally realized that the problem
>resides at my side. :(

>> Solution, for you Peter, you have to send all your outbound mail to your
>> provider (whose mail server is hopefully declared in the DNS). For Postfix,
>> this is the syntax, in main.cf

>> relayhost = [parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr]

>> Here the brackets are to avoid a MX lookup which would lead to a different
>> machine, which in turn would reject my mail :-)
>Yes, I decide to relay my mails to my provider. BUT the problem is that
>my provider's SMTP server requires SMTP AUTH... Sigh...
>I have the account with username/password but I don't know how
>to configure sendmail 8.12.7 to enable it. Please bear with
>me, I'm totally a newbie to sendmail. I have read the SMTP
>AUTHENTICATION section in cf/README, BUT it seems useless to me
>as I don't know, honestly, what it talks about....
>Is there any step-by-step example that I can follow to configure my
>sendmail to use SMTP AUTH?? I do need to read/WRITE to the mailing
>lists. TIA!!

> Is there any step-by-step example that I can follow to configure my
> sendmail to use SMTP AUTH?? I do need to read/WRITE to the mailing
> lists. TIA!!

>>         You can start by making yourself a trusted user, but believe
>>         me, sendmail is a dead end.
>While i was advocating removing sendmail from the base system,
>i think you are exagerating a little bit. Probably sendmail
>is still the best MTA for the power user. Some people say it
>is able to have better throughput that all other MTAs on very
>heavy mail servers (i strongly doubt the arguments i have seen
>about that, but i have no first hand experience on the subject).
>Obviously it has more bells and whistles that any other MTA
>hence may help solve otherwise impossible problems. My point
>is that for most ordinary users it is far too powerful hence
>hard to configure, and that simpler options like postfix can
>perfectly do the job with almost zero configuration and a priori
>good (not to say better) security.