Need help partitioning with FIPS.

Need help partitioning with FIPS.

Post by niko » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00



I just bought linux REDHAT 5.2
Currently I have Windows95 on my computer and I want to dual boot with
llinux. Now before installing linux Im using the program FIPS to
shrink my existing partition (that is the windows partition).

When using FIPS I received the following message

           Error: Last cylinder is not free.
the parttion cannot be split if not at least
the very last cylinder is completely free.
Probably there is a hidden file like image.idx
or mirorsav.fil in the last cylinder.

Well I found the hidden file image.idx and deleted it, also image.dat
but there was no mirorsav.fil file.So I defragment the hard drive with
Speedisk from Norton Utilities and retried the program.
But received the same message again.

My question is how do I know which other files to delete, I'm assuming
there's other hidden files in the last cylinder. So how do I identify
them.

I'm desperate and any help will be appreciated.
Thank you.

 
 
 

Need help partitioning with FIPS.

Post by Marc Wiriadisastr » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00


cool thats good what your doing I've never wanted to try that but congrats
if you can get it to work.  I read somewhere about a way to do it it was
in the the installation guide which can be downloaded of the net in a pdf
format so get that it'll be heaps of help plus you can view it with normal
acrobat as long as you have winzip cause it's gzipped which winzip can
deal with.

> I just bought linux REDHAT 5.2
> Currently I have Windows95 on my computer and I want to dual boot with
> llinux. Now before installing linux Im using the program FIPS to
> shrink my existing partition (that is the windows partition).

> When using FIPS I received the following message

>            Error: Last cylinder is not free.
> the parttion cannot be split if not at least
> the very last cylinder is completely free.
> Probably there is a hidden file like image.idx
> or mirorsav.fil in the last cylinder.

> Well I found the hidden file image.idx and deleted it, also image.dat
> but there was no mirorsav.fil file.So I defragment the hard drive with
> Speedisk from Norton Utilities and retried the program.
> But received the same message again.

> My question is how do I know which other files to delete, I'm assuming
> there's other hidden files in the last cylinder. So how do I identify
> them.

> I'm desperate and any help will be appreciated.
> Thank you.


 
 
 

Need help partitioning with FIPS.

Post by dmarsh.. » Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Start the DOS prompt, go to the root directory (cd \) and use
dir/A:h/s/b
This finds all files and directries with the hidden file attrib set, in
all subdirectories and gives it in brief format.

I then used
attrib -h -s -r filename
to "unset" the hidden, system and read-only attributes. You will probably
need to do this from restarting in DOS mode. Maybe you can do it from
selecting the files in WIN95 and selecting properties - not sure.

One thing you can also do is search for the *.da0 files and delete them
(they were system.dat and user.dat backup files on my machine which are
created again on startup/shutdown?).

Also empty your recycled bin.

I then selected the *.dat files and unset the attributes from WIN95 by
selecting files, properties when highlighted. Don't do anthing now except
run defrag from the My Computer icon, selecting c:, properties, tools.
Doing anything else seems reset the h,s,r attrib flags.

I like to watch the defrag process - the unmovable clusters show up as red
squares - then I know if I've moved all the data to the top since I can
scan the whole disk if I choose "show details".

Of course monkeying around unsetting these attributes, having the file move
may cause difficulties if the WIN system can't find them again but I
haven't been able to crash my system yet.

If this works and you start to setup Linux and want WIN to load as the
default - one of the screens will show you the two and Linux will be set as
the default boot (shown with an asterisk). At the bottom you will see a
message like "press F2 to set the default boot system". Choose the dos
line and press F2. Now when your system boots at the LILO prompt if you do
nothing for 1 minute or hit enter, WIN will boot. Typing linux here will
start Linux.

Happy trails,
Dave.


>I just bought linux REDHAT 5.2
>Currently I have Windows95 on my computer and I want to dual boot with
>llinux. Now before installing linux Im using the program FIPS to
>shrink my existing partition (that is the windows partition).

>When using FIPS I received the following message

>           Error: Last cylinder is not free.
>the parttion cannot be split if not at least
>the very last cylinder is completely free.
>Probably there is a hidden file like image.idx
>or mirorsav.fil in the last cylinder.

>Well I found the hidden file image.idx and deleted it, also image.dat
>but there was no mirorsav.fil file.So I defragment the hard drive with
>Speedisk from Norton Utilities and retried the program.
>But received the same message again.

>My question is how do I know which other files to delete, I'm assuming
>there's other hidden files in the last cylinder. So how do I identify
>them.

>I'm desperate and any help will be appreciated.
>Thank you.

 
 
 

Need help partitioning with FIPS.

Post by SgtRock » Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:00:00



>Start the DOS prompt, go to the root directory (cd \) and use
>dir/A:h/s/b
>This finds all files and directries with the hidden file attrib set, in
>all subdirectories and gives it in brief format.

>I then used
>attrib -h -s -r filename
>to "unset" the hidden, system and read-only attributes. You will probably
>need to do this from restarting in DOS mode. Maybe you can do it from
>selecting the files in WIN95 and selecting properties - not sure.

>One thing you can also do is search for the *.da0 files and delete them
>(they were system.dat and user.dat backup files on my machine which are
>created again on startup/shutdown?).

>Also empty your recycled bin.

>I then selected the *.dat files and unset the attributes from WIN95 by
>selecting files, properties when highlighted. Don't do anthing now except
>run defrag from the My Computer icon, selecting c:, properties, tools.
>Doing anything else seems reset the h,s,r attrib flags.

>I like to watch the defrag process - the unmovable clusters show up as red
>squares - then I know if I've moved all the data to the top since I can
>scan the whole disk if I choose "show details".

>Of course monkeying around unsetting these attributes, having the file move
>may cause difficulties if the WIN system can't find them again but I
>haven't been able to crash my system yet.

>If this works and you start to setup Linux and want WIN to load as the
>default - one of the screens will show you the two and Linux will be set as
>the default boot (shown with an asterisk). At the bottom you will see a
>message like "press F2 to set the default boot system". Choose the dos
>line and press F2. Now when your system boots at the LILO prompt if you do
>nothing for 1 minute or hit enter, WIN will boot. Typing linux here will
>start Linux.

>Happy trails,
>Dave.


>>I just bought linux REDHAT 5.2
>>Currently I have Windows95 on my computer and I want to dual boot with
>>llinux. Now before installing linux Im using the program FIPS to
>>shrink my existing partition (that is the windows partition).

>>When using FIPS I received the following message

>>           Error: Last cylinder is not free.
>>the parttion cannot be split if not at least
>>the very last cylinder is completely free.
>>Probably there is a hidden file like image.idx
>>or mirorsav.fil in the last cylinder.

>>Well I found the hidden file image.idx and deleted it, also image.dat
>>but there was no mirorsav.fil file.So I defragment the hard drive with
>>Speedisk from Norton Utilities and retried the program.  

    ^^^^^----SpeedDisk puts some of the files at the end of your
partition.  Use Defrag instead, and then go back to speedDisk after
you've split your partition. (Much more efficient than defrag).
Also if you are splitting a fat32 partition you will need the 2.x
version of fips..
---from a win98/Slack user.

Hope you enjoy!
(O|||O) AaThom     visit http://home.earthlink.net/~aathom/

 
 
 

Need help partitioning with FIPS.

Post by Richard RUD » Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:00:00



>I just bought linux REDHAT 5.2
>Currently I have Windows95 on my computer and I want to dual boot with
>llinux. Now before installing linux Im using the program FIPS to
>shrink my existing partition (that is the windows partition).

>When using FIPS I received the following message

>           Error: Last cylinder is not free.
>the parttion cannot be split if not at least
>the very last cylinder is completely free.
>Probably there is a hidden file like image.idx
>or mirorsav.fil in the last cylinder.

>Well I found the hidden file image.idx and deleted it, also image.dat
>but there was no mirorsav.fil file.So I defragment the hard drive with
>Speedisk from Norton Utilities and retried the program.
>But received the same message again.

>My question is how do I know which other files to delete, I'm assuming
>there's other hidden files in the last cylinder. So how do I identify
>them.

>I'm desperate and any help will be appreciated.
>Thank you.

Um, when you run Nortons Speedisk, I think it recreates those image files
you deleted... ;\

Also make sure you tell Speedisk to defrag/optimise the swapfile as well.

If you still have trouble, try using the undocumented (?) /p switch of
defrag:

DEFRAG C: /P /NOPROMPT

  __   __   _______________________________
 //)) //)) | Richard RUDEK. MicroDek.      | Hey, it's Friday night...
//\\ //\\  | Chatswood, Sydney. Australia. | C:\WORK> CD \  
           `-------------------------------'

 
 
 

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