NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

Post by <dbenn.. » Sat, 10 Sep 1994 18:28:20



The NE2000+ ethernet card has a problem when you try to install linux
or just run try to run it from the CD it messes up the CMOS on the card
so that when you try to reboot the computer the computer will lockup
before it gets to the memory test. I have done this twice so it is not
just one bad card, its a design flaw. Once the CMOS on the NE2000+ card
has been messed up the card is useless, because there is no way to force
the CMOS to reset to defaults.  I have only tried this with the
Yadrassil Summer 1994 CD release so I cannot say if other versions of
linux will cause the same problem, but since it compleatly destroys the
ethernet card it is not something I would recomend that most users test
out.
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NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

Post by <dbenn.. » Sat, 10 Sep 1994 18:22:50


The NE2000+ ethernet card has a problem when you try to install linux
or just run try to run it from the CD it messes up the CMOS on the card
so that when you try to reboot the computer the computer will lockup
before it gets to the memory test. I have done this twice so it is not
just one bad card, its a design flaw. Once the CMOS on the NE2000+ card
has been messed up the card is useless, because there is no way to force
the CMOS to reset to defaults.  I have only tried this with the
Yadrassil Summer 1994 CD release so I cannot say if other versions of
linux will cause the same problem, but since it compleatly destroys the
ethernet card it is not something I would recomend that most users test
out.
======================================================================

Bureau of Business Research         Phone: 402-472-7921
College of Business Administration
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
114G CBA                         UU      UU    NN     NN    LL
Lincoln, NE  68588-0406          UU      UU    NNNN   NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN NN  NN    LL
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NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

Post by <dbenn.. » Sat, 10 Sep 1994 18:23:45


The NE2000+ ethernet card has a problem when you try to install linux
or just run try to run it from the CD it messes up the CMOS on the card
so that when you try to reboot the computer the computer will lockup
before it gets to the memory test. I have done this twice so it is not
just one bad card, its a design flaw. Once the CMOS on the NE2000+ card
has been messed up the card is useless, because there is no way to force
the CMOS to reset to defaults.  I have only tried this with the
Yadrassil Summer 1994 CD release so I cannot say if other versions of
linux will cause the same problem, but since it compleatly destroys the
ethernet card it is not something I would recomend that most users test
out.
======================================================================

Bureau of Business Research         Phone: 402-472-7921
College of Business Administration
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
114G CBA                         UU      UU    NN     NN    LL
Lincoln, NE  68588-0406          UU      UU    NNNN   NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN NN  NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN  NN NN    LL
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NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

Post by <dbenn.. » Sat, 10 Sep 1994 20:25:34


The NE2000+ ethernet card has a problem when you try to install linux
or just run try to run it from the CD it messes up the CMOS on the card
so that when you try to reboot the computer the computer will lockup
before it gets to the memory test. I have done this twice so it is not
just one bad card, its a design flaw. Once the CMOS on the NE2000+ card
has been messed up the card is useless, because there is no way to force
the CMOS to reset to defaults.  I have only tried this with the
Yadrassil Summer 1994 CD release so I cannot say if other versions of
linux will cause the same problem, but since it compleatly destroys the
ethernet card it is not something I would recomend that most users test
out.
======================================================================

Bureau of Business Research         Phone: 402-472-7921
College of Business Administration
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
114G CBA                         UU      UU    NN     NN    LL
Lincoln, NE  68588-0406          UU      UU    NNNN   NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN NN  NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN  NN NN    LL
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NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

Post by <dbenn.. » Sun, 11 Sep 1994 00:24:36


The NE2000+ ethernet card has a problem when you try to install linux
or just run try to run it from the CD it messes up the CMOS on the card
so that when you try to reboot the computer the computer will lockup
before it gets to the memory test. I have done this twice so it is not
just one bad card, its a design flaw. Once the CMOS on the NE2000+ card
has been messed up the card is useless, because there is no way to force
the CMOS to reset to defaults.  I have only tried this with the
Yadrassil Summer 1994 CD release so I cannot say if other versions of
linux will cause the same problem, but since it compleatly destroys the
ethernet card it is not something I would recomend that most users test
out.
======================================================================

Bureau of Business Research         Phone: 402-472-7921
College of Business Administration
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
114G CBA                         UU      UU    NN     NN    LL
Lincoln, NE  68588-0406          UU      UU    NNNN   NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN NN  NN    LL
                                 UU      UU    NN  NN NN    LL
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NE2000+ Card Tosted Under Linux (Yadrassil Summer 1994)

Post by Alan C » Wed, 14 Sep 1994 00:30:21



>just one bad card, its a design flaw. Once the CMOS on the NE2000+ card
>has been messed up the card is useless, because there is no way to force
>the CMOS to reset to defaults.  I have only tried this with the

Chuckle.. Someone designed a real disaster of an ethernet card if that is
actually true. Can you image what fun a netware eat NE2000+ cards virus
will be. Thats another one to cross of my shopping lists.

If the board is truely badly designed then I guess it is not impossible
one of the other device probes confused the card. If you can't get the card
back you probably want to complain to the supplier because any decent board
either has a factory default jumper or a preconfigured setting to avoid
accidents.

Alan
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1. Yggdrasil Fall 1994 (Summer 1994)

Bright and early I rise from my bed to pursue the American Way (spend
money.)  I arrived at Micro Center to purchase some Thin-net supplies and
perhaps a Linux CDROM (my current CDROM is a bit old and I am about to
network my two computers and so want the latest Linux kernel.)  

($300.00 later - man this store is neat)
What have we here!  A Yggdrasil CDROM.  The spine is marked Summer 1994 but
no matter, the kernel should be relatively new.  The price, $19.95.  I would
later find that the spine was incorrect and the CD was actually the Fall
1994.  Great... I throw the CD in the basket and roll as quickly as possible
to the very long checkout line.  

(back home)
The wife is upset.... I was only supposed to spend $60.00.  Of well, she will
get over it (she always does ;)  )  I rip open the Yggd package and thumb
through the manual (not really... just thought I would impress you guys..)  I
fdisk a few new partitions from OS/2 and then reboot with the Yggd floppy.  
It hangs attempting to mount root...   several times.... I know I have no
conflicts... I *was* successfully running Slackware 2.x (1.59), OS/2, DOS,
Windows whenever beta, etc.  Hmm.... thi IS odd.  I throw the new ether16
card to another IRQ.. works... weird.. No biggie, I will deal with that
later.  Now, I login as INSTALL.  The install begins.  I choose my
partitions, do some formatting and after the root partition is formatted I
find... it will not mount...

(Second try....)

it mounts.  Do I want LILO to rewrite the MBR: NO!  Boot Manager is so much
prettier.  OK.  All installed.  Reboot.  No bootable OS in this partition.  
Wow... how neat.  

I have been using Slackware successfully for almost a year... never had a
problem and yet Yggdrasil's CDROM will not install.  My equipment is pretty
standard: IDE - 2 drives, s3, 16 mb, pretty plain.  All my devices are
supported.  Now, I think I will just give Yggd a call... Hah! Not for $2.95 a
minute.  Maybe if I needed config help... but I can hardly justify spending
that kind of cash for their broken install.  So I think:  I will drop them
some email... How odd.... they mention that they will accept email but fail
to provide an email address.  

Bad business, yes.  I understand support costs are high... Hell, these guys
have *any* support costs, it is all profit at $2.95/min.  How do they support
bugs in their install.... they don't.  

I pull out the Slackware dist.  Install (same config, partitions etc.) It
works, flawlessly...  Imagine that.  A free install distribution and it
works. If I pay, it doesn't.  

Judge for yourself....

B Griggs

2. ] vs [ test-arg ]

3. Yggdrasil Summer 1994 bug report list WANTED!

4. Wabi patches - where are they?

5. USENIX SUMMER 1994 TECHNICAL CONFERENCE & REGISTRATION INFO.

6. Virutal memory

7. cdwrite.c, Yggdrasil summer 1994?

8. Automagic .txt versions of HTML pages (was Re: [Q] How to force a html page to a text version)

9. USENIX Summer 1994 Technical Conference & Registration Info.

10. WTB Linux Journal Issue #3 (July 1994)

11. Linux congress in Heidelberg, Germany 30 june 1994 ???

12. UNIX REVIEW LINUX 'OUTSTANDING PRODUCT OF 1994' AWARD!

13. Applying PATCH54 to Trans-Ameritech Release 4/October 1994 CDROM Linux