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by **Alexandra Griff** » Sun, 11 Sep 1994 23:36:01

For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
opposed to an "mget" does work.

I can connect from normal TCP/IP hosts and get directory listings,
even using the same version of NcFTP but without TERM support. Also,
Sunsite is the only FTP archive that seems to be having this problem!
All the others are still OK. Switching TERM hosts doesn't help.

I know Sunsite has had some recent downtime; could they have changed
over to a new ftp server program and thereby caused this problem?
Anyone else even having a problem w/sunsite?

-- alex

by **Christopher Wil** » Mon, 12 Sep 1994 02:17:16

: For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
: connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
: displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
: change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
: contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
: pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
: it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
: opposed to an "mget" does work.

(snip)

: I know Sunsite has had some recent downtime; could they have changed
: over to a new ftp server program and thereby caused this problem?
: Anyone else even having a problem w/sunsite?

Yup. Same problem, NcFTP 1.8.2. This happens on a few other hosts,
too. I think it has to do with NcFTP's ability to strip out the
preceding numbers from each incoming line (FTP to gatekeeper.dec.com and
try reading the MOTD, you'll see what I mean). I haven't found a fix
yet, but now that it's happened to _SUNSITE_ I'm going to start looking
harder ...

-- Chris

"... but I want to use all eight comm ports SIMULTANEOUSLY!"
PGP 2.6 public key available by finger for the clinically paranoid.

by **Patrick Reijn** » Mon, 12 Sep 1994 06:50:23

Quote:>For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
>connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
>displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
>change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
>contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
>pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
>it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
>opposed to an "mget" does work.
>I can connect from normal TCP/IP hosts and get directory listings,
>even using the same version of NcFTP but without TERM support. Also,
>Sunsite is the only FTP archive that seems to be having this problem!
>All the others are still OK. Switching TERM hosts doesn't help.
>I know Sunsite has had some recent downtime; could they have changed
>over to a new ftp server program and thereby caused this problem?
>Anyone else even having a problem w/sunsite?

Yup, last friday. I did not try to get or mget files, but listing directory
contents was not possible with Term-ncftp on Linux, ftp on sunos and ncftp
on Sunos; so it looks like the problem is at sunsite. sunsite is furthermore
difficult to connect to at this moment. I mostly get thinks like

Connected to sunsite.unc.edu.
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection

Patrick Reijnen

Quote:>-- alex

--
************************* Patrick Reijnen *************************
* Department of Computer Science, Catholic University of Nijmegen *

* WWW: http://{atlas,zeus}.cs.kun.nl:4080/homepage.html *

by **Patrick Reijn** » Mon, 12 Sep 1994 18:23:07

>: For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
>: connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
>: displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
>: change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
>: contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
>: pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
>: it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
>: opposed to an "mget" does work.
>(snip)
>: I know Sunsite has had some recent downtime; could they have changed
>: over to a new ftp server program and thereby caused this problem?
>: Anyone else even having a problem w/sunsite?
>Yup. Same problem, NcFTP 1.8.2. This happens on a few other hosts,
>too. I think it has to do with NcFTP's ability to strip out the
>preceding numbers from each incoming line (FTP to gatekeeper.dec.com and
>try reading the MOTD, you'll see what I mean). I haven't found a fix
>yet, but now that it's happened to _SUNSITE_ I'm going to start looking
>harder ...

Moment; I'm running term-ncftp 1.70 already a long time without any problems
on all kinds of ftp sites including sunsite.unc.edu. Only since last friday
I do have the problem mentioned above, so I think you have to explain me
how this suddenly happens. I don't think is a problem with ncftp. I also
had the problem with ftp on sunos.

>-- Chris

> "... but I want to use all eight comm ports SIMULTANEOUSLY!"
> PGP 2.6 public key available by finger for the clinically paranoid.

Patrick Reijnen

--
************************* Patrick Reijnen *************************
* Department of Computer Science, Catholic University of Nijmegen *

* WWW: http://{atlas,zeus}.cs.kun.nl:4080/homepage.html *

by **C.W. Southe** » Thu, 15 Sep 1994 23:26:08

>For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
>connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
>displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
>change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
>contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
>pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
>it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
>opposed to an "mget" does work.

Same problem here. What is up with Sunsite?

chris.
--

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by **Patrick Reijn** » Fri, 16 Sep 1994 07:25:14

>>For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
>>connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
>>displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
>>change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
>>contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
>>pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
>>it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
>>opposed to an "mget" does work.

>Same problem here. What is up with Sunsite?

Lets make a wild guess: some very favorit game which is mentioned in these
groups often can be found therefor Linux since last week???? :-)

>chris.
>--

> \__ / / / / __) UUCP: !uucp!rit!cws9669

Patrick Reijnen

--
************************* Patrick Reijnen *************************
* Department of Computer Science, Catholic University of Nijmegen *

* WWW: http://{atlas,zeus}.cs.kun.nl:4080/homepage.html *

by **Gertjan van Noo** » Fri, 16 Sep 1994 08:24:35

>>For the past couple of days I've been unable to make usable
>>connections to Sunsite via TERM-NcFTP version 1.7.0. It connects and
>>displays the logon message (the one mentioning FTPTool); I can also
>>change directories without trouble. However, any attempt to list the
>>contents of a directory or grab a file with mget (which requires
>>pattern-matching against the directory) fails. No error is indicated,
>>it just redisplays the prompt after doing nothing. Doing a "get" as
>>opposed to an "mget" does work.

>Same problem here. What is up with Sunsite?

>chris.
>--

> \__ / / / / __) UUCP: !uucp!rit!cws9669

another one here. It says something like `Oops, couldn't get /tmp/ncftp234324
using other ftp sites: no problem. using ftp from other (real internet)
machine to sunsite: no problem.

So i finally am using the src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirror, as I should :-)

by **Christopher Wil** » Sat, 17 Sep 1994 00:18:12

: Lets make a wild guess: some very favorit game which is mentioned in these
: groups often can be found therefor Linux since last week???? :-)

Uh, no. Actually, there's a bug/feature in NcFTP that apparently
requires ftpd to open a passive connection to operate. There seems to be
a couple flavors of ftpd that refuse.

You can see by yourself by setting verbosity to 2 in NcFTP. Any file
transfer/directory requests will bomb out with an error (that happens to
be masked by default).

-- Chris

"... but I want to use all eight comm ports SIMULTANEOUSLY!"
PGP 2.6 public key available by finger for the clinically paranoid.

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