Very Computer

Dear All

I've been a bit hasty and got a card that's apparently not supported, even
with the schneider-digital.de FireGL drivers.

I've installed the RPM and built the kernel module & configured XF86Config-4
(included below). However when I run startx I get the following error:

(EE) fglrx(0): board is third party board

This is with both the internal AGPGART driver and the xfree86.org one.

A message here <http://www.spinics.net/lists/xf-newbie/msg03260.html>
suggests modifying the driver with hexedit, however the offset given
doesn't apply to this version of the driver.

Has anyone managed to make the current drivers work with a card not "Built
by ATI"? Do you know how I might discover the correct offset to edit
(assuming there still is one)?

Alternatively, is there any word on updated drivers from ATI other than the
stuff back in April that said 1 month?

The distribution is Mandrake 9.1, the motherboard has a VIA KT333 chipset.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Alex

########################
## /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
########################

# File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
    # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
    # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent
of
    # the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
doesn't work
EndSection

Section "dri"
    # Access to OpenGL ICD is allowed for all users:
    Mode 0666
    # Access to OpenGL ICD is restricted to a specific user group:
    #Group 100    # users
    #Mode 0660
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux

    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection
    Load "extmod"

    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"

    Load "glx" # 3D layer
    Load "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard1"
    Driver "Keyboard"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
    Option "XkbCompat" ""
    Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    HorizSync 30-96
    VertRefresh 50-160

    # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
    # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x480"    65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563
-hsync -vsync

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "ATI"
    BoardName "ATI Radeon 9700 Pro"
    Driver "fglrx"
    #Driver "radeon"

    #Option                              "NoDDC"
    Option "no_accel"                   "no"
    Option "no_dri"                     "no"

    # FireGL DDX driver module specific settings ===
    # Screen Management ===
    Option "DesktopSetup"               "0x00000000"
    Option "MonitorLayout"              "AUTO, AUTO"
    Option "IgnoreEDID"                 "off"
    Option "HSync2"                     "unspecified"
    Option "VRefresh2"                  "unspecified"
    Option "ScreenOverlap"              "0"
    Option "GammaCorrectionI"           "0x00000000"
    Option "GammaCorrectionII"          "0x00000000"

    # OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
    Option "Capabilities"               "0x00000000"

    # Video Overlay for the Xv extension ===
    Option "VideoOverlay"               "on"

    # OpenGL Overlay ===
    # Note: When OpenGL Overlay is enabled, Video Overlay
    #       will be disabled automatically
    Option "OpenGLOverlay"              "off"

    # Misc Options ===
    Option "UseFastTLS"                 "0"
    Option "BlockSignalsOnLock"         "on"
    Option "UseInternalAGPGART"         "yes"
    Option "ForceGenericCPU"            "no"

    #BusID "PCI:1:0:0"    # vendor=1002, device=4e44
    Screen 0
    #Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection

###################
## Full Xfree.0.log
###################

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-0.13mdksmp i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 12 March 2003
        Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 23 22:57:16 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
(==) ServerLayout "layout1"
(**) |-->Screen "screen1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "monitor1"
(**) |   |-->Device "device1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(WW) Option "XkbCompat" requires an string value
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
(**) XKB: layout: "gb"
(WW) Option "XkbOptions" requires an string value
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:-1"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
Using vt 7
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
        XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
        XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
        XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
        XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
        XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
        ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,3099 card 1106,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,b099 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr
01
(II) PCI: 00:05:0: chip 109e,0350 card 0000,0000 rev 12 class 04,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 8086,1040 card 8086,1000 rev 00 class 07,80,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1113,1211 card 1113,1211 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 1033,0035 card 1033,0035 rev 41 class 0c,03,10 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:0b:1: chip 1033,0035 card 1033,0035 rev 41 class 0c,03,10 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:0b:2: chip 1033,00e0 card 1462,3504 rev 02 class 0c,03,20 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1106,3074 card 1106,0000 rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:11:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1106,0571 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:11:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 1b class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:11:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 1b class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:11:4: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 1b class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:11:5: chip 1106,3059 card 4005,4710 rev 10 class 04,01,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4e44 card 1458,4012 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 01:00:1: chip 1002,4e64 card 1458,4013 rev 00 class 03,80,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
        [0] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
        [0] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
        [0] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000c (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
        [0] -1  0       0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]
        [1] -1  0       0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]
        [2] -1  0       0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]
        [3] -1  0       0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
        [0] -1  0       0xdf600000 - 0xdf6fffff
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Post this in the Linux forum on http://www.rage3d.com
It's a good hub for Radeon's under Linux.

Unfortunately (but not for me!) my Radeon 9700 Pro is
made by ATI. I had no problems with it.

But, if you're a gamer, skip on these and wait for ATI
to update for XFree 4.3.

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Quote:> Post this in the Linux forum on http://www.rage3d.com
> It's a good hub for Radeon's under Linux.

> Unfortunately (but not for me!) my Radeon 9700 Pro is
> made by ATI. I had no problems with it.

> But, if you're a gamer, skip on these and wait for ATI
> to update for XFree 4.3.

Thanks for the pointer Orion, a very active and helpful site.

Here is a copy of the followup post I made there after getting everything
working:

  quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
  The new drivers do support third party boards...

  "(EE) fglrx(0): board is third party board" is very misleading.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

Very, very misleading, grrr..

Yes the schneider-digital drivers do work with third party boards, I now
know this because I GOT IT WORKING. Thankyou for the sanity check spyke.

The cause some combination of 2 possibles, (a) dri not loading because I
misconfigured it, (b) dri not working due to lingering Nvidia files.

Incase someone is in the same position here are some random tips I think
would be useful.

- As spyke said, check /var/log/XFree86.0.log, the last few lines should
point to the true cause.

- To check if dri is the problem change 'Option "no_dri" "No"' to 'Option
"no_dri" "Yes"'in /etc/X11/XFree86-4, see if startx works.

- Obliterate any nvidia packages, for me this meant 'rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep
NVIDIA`' (without quotes, but note the backticks)

- reinstall all of the following packages, XFree-server, XFree-libs, *Mesa*.
use --replacepkgs & --replacefiles to allow this. This will particualrly
apply if you get errors loading GLX.

- reinstall the fglrx package with --replacefiles --replacepkgs, _after_
reinstalling the other packages.

- make sure 'modprobe flglrx' works, put flgrx as an entry in /etc/modules
to make it load on boot. I've not tried with the stock AGRGART since getting
things working.

Again my thanks to spike, my gut feeling is that the problem was the Nvidia
files (particularly under /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/) but you pointed me away
from hexedit which is definately a good thing.

Regards

Alex