Very Computer

Hi,

Why is the gtk font selection dialog not always the same? For example:
when I do:
$ gvim &
$ gimp &

and then get the font dialog of both programs to filter only for
gb2312.1980-0, this is what I get:

gimp:
ar pl kaitim gb (arphic)
ar pl sunil gb (arphic)
fangsongti
songti

gvim:
fangsongti
songti

Why doesn't gvim have the arphic fonts?

Now, when I choose songti or fangsongti in gvim, the cursor (and window)
gets very large and it advances with large steps while typing, but I don't
see anything. Why?

Anybody ideas? Thanks.

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Because the fonts are there, they have been scanned and entered into the
database, but you (the present user) don't have access rights to actually
read them. You need to change the access rights in the font directory and
its files so they have world enter and read access.

# cd (font directory)
# chmod ugo+r -R .

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Thanks, but no solution :(
I checked the rights, all is ok.
I'm running both programs as the same user btw, and still there is this
difference... (That means in gimp it works, in gvim it doesn't)

Other ideas?

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How do you know you were in the right directory? Did you restart the font
server after changing the access rights?

Quote:> I checked the rights, all is ok.

Please. I checked my taxes, and all were OK. But the IRS disagreed -- they
wanted some stupid document called a "tax return." *retentive
beauracrats.

The problem is font access rights. Hand-waving won't make this go away.

Quote:> I'm running both programs as the same user btw, and still there is this
> difference... (That means in gimp it works, in gvim it doesn't)

> Other ideas?

Yeah, here's my other idea. Check the access rights on your font
directories. Make sure the directory you check is the right one.

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Hi,

Quote:>>> # cd (font directory)
>>> # chmod ugo+r -R .

>> Thanks, but no solution :(

> How do you know you were in the right directory? Did you restart the
> font server after changing the access rights?

I don't use a font-server, only Xft.

Quote:>> I checked the rights, all is ok.

> Please. I checked my taxes, and all were OK. But the IRS disagreed --
> they wanted some stupid document called a "tax return." *retentive
> beauracrats.

> The problem is font access rights. Hand-waving won't make this go away.

let's put it another way: _all_  font-files on my entire system are world
readable, they were before and they are now. (As are all fonts.dir,
fonts.scale and *.enc, if that matters)

Quote:>> I'm running both programs as the same user btw, and still there is this
>> difference... (That means in gimp it works, in gvim it doesn't)

>> Other ideas?

> Yeah, here's my other idea. Check the access rights on your font
> directories. Make sure the directory you check is the right one.

It still doesn't make sense that in one program they work, and in the
other they don't. I repeat, these programs were started from the same
shell, and operate having the same access-rights. (Not that it matters,
since all font-files are world readable.)

Having said this, I still think I might be right looking for more ideas ;)

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Whether or not you realize it, you are using a font server.

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Hi,

<big snip>

Quote:> Whether or not you realize it, you are using a font server.

Thanks for your prompt responses ;)

AFAIK from XFree version 4.2 up, font "serving" is taken care of by the
FreeType module or xtt module (to be chosen freely). This is no font
serving in the classical sense on a network socket, as was the case with
xfs.

Anyway, we are losing direction in the topic. Are there any other
possible explanations (and solutions) regarding my font problem?

Cheers.

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Hi,

Why is the gtk font selection dialog not always the same?
For example:
when I do:
$ gvim &
$ gimp &

and then get the font dialog of both programs to filter only for
gb2312.1980-0, this is what I get:

gimp:
ar pl kaitim gb (arphic)
ar pl sunil gb (arphic)
fangsongti
songti

gvim:
fangsongti
songti

Why doesn't gvim have the arphic fonts?

Now, when I choose songti or fangsongti in gvim, the cursor (and window) gets very large
and it advances with large steps while typing, but I don't see anything.
Why?

Anybody ideas? Thanks.

--
Jeroen
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:47:11 -0700,

+>
+> > Hi,
+> >
+> >
+> >>>> # cd (font directory)
+> >>>> # chmod ugo+r -R .
+> >>>
+> >>> Thanks, but no solution :(
+> >>
+> >> How do you know you were in the right directory? Did you restart the
+> >> font server after changing the access rights?
+> >
+> > I don't use a font-server, only Xft.
+>
+> Whether or not you realize it, you are using a font server.

If you haven't been paying attention, it isn't likely to be the font
server, since he's running two applications on the same machine, one
of which picks up the additional fonts, and one of which does not.

Unless you mean to imply that the fontserver is the culprit in doling
out the fonts differently to different applications?

James
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HI. STOP POSTING THIS SAME MESSAGE.

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That was not what I said. There was no "it," just a statement of fact.

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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:23:02 -0700,


+>
+> > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:47:11 -0700,


+> > +>
+> > +> > Hi,
+> > +> >
+> > +> >
+> > +> >>>> # cd (font directory)
+> > +> >>>> # chmod ugo+r -R .
+> > +> >>>
+> > +> >>> Thanks, but no solution :(
+> > +> >>
+> > +> >> How do you know you were in the right directory? Did you restart the
+> > +> >> font server after changing the access rights?
+> > +> >
+> > +> > I don't use a font-server, only Xft.
+> > +>
+> > +> Whether or not you realize it, you are using a font server.
+> >
+> > If you haven't been paying attention, it isn't likely to be the font
+> > server,
+>
+> That was not what I said. There was no "it," just a statement of fact.

You must a mathemagician. What you've said is correct, but it's also
meaningless. There's nothing wrong with saying "I don't know", or "I
haven't encountered that".

If you want to flame/taunt/poke fun at the poor OP, that's what
alt.flame is for...

HTH. HAND.

James
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isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

Ok,

Seems I'm going to have too look somewhere else, since this thread ended
in the swamp.

Bye.

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