Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Francois Labrequ » Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:32:01



And when I mean "freeze", I mean FREEZE.  The screen goes black, CAPS
LOCK and NUM LOCK no longer work, network card stops transmitting,
etc...  I even have to hold the power button for 15 seconds to get my PC
to turn off.

Everything works flawlessly in text-mode, though.

Do I need to recompile something else?  Get a newer version of XF86?
Revert to 2.2?

I'm using X 3.3.6 that came with Caldera 2.4, if that helps.
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Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by buried.al.. » Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:01:14


It sounds to me like the font server or something is not loading.  Not really
sure, though.

Justin Hibbits



>And when I mean "freeze", I mean FREEZE.  The screen goes black, CAPS
>LOCK and NUM LOCK no longer work, network card stops transmitting,
>etc...  I even have to hold the power button for 15 seconds to get my PC
>to turn off.

>Everything works flawlessly in text-mode, though.

>Do I need to recompile something else?  Get a newer version of XF86?
>Revert to 2.2?

>I'm using X 3.3.6 that came with Caldera 2.4, if that helps.
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Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by jurriaan kalkm » Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:19:03


On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:32:01 -0400, Francois Labreque


> And when I mean "freeze", I mean FREEZE.  The screen goes black, CAPS
> LOCK and NUM LOCK no longer work, network card stops transmitting,
> etc...  I even have to hold the power button for 15 seconds to get my PC
> to turn off.

> Everything works flawlessly in text-mode, though.

> Do I need to recompile something else?  Get a newer version of XF86?
> Revert to 2.2?

> I'm using X 3.3.6 that came with Caldera 2.4, if that helps.

You could check /var/log/messages for error-messages, or start x like
this:

startx 2>&1 > startx.log

then see where it stops. A newer version might be a good option, or try
to search if other people with your hardware (videocard) have similar
problems.

Good luck,
Jurriaan

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Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Francois Labrequ » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:44:02



> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:32:01 -0400, Francois Labreque

> > And when I mean "freeze", I mean FREEZE.  The screen goes black, CAPS
> > LOCK and NUM LOCK no longer work, network card stops transmitting,
> > etc...  I even have to hold the power button for 15 seconds to get my PC
> > to turn off.

> > Everything works flawlessly in text-mode, though.

> > Do I need to recompile something else?  Get a newer version of XF86?
> > Revert to 2.2?

> > I'm using X 3.3.6 that came with Caldera 2.4, if that helps.

> You could check /var/log/messages for error-messages, or start x like
> this:

> startx 2>&1 > startx.log

Nothing.  The machine just freezes.  startx.log is 0 bytes long.

Quote:> then see where it stops. A newer version might be a good option, or try
> to search if other people with your hardware (videocard) have similar
> problems.

Now for a slight update:

While trying to fix the sound, I enabled PNP in the BIOS, which made my
NIC *out, but at least now X works.  Back to sleuthing, I guess...

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Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Dan Osterrat » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:46:21


Quote:> While trying to fix the sound, I enabled PNP in the BIOS, which made my
> NIC *out, but at least now X works.  Back to sleuthing, I guess...

Sound as would videocard and nic share the same irq. videocards often "want"
an own irq. Try this in the bios.
 
 
 

Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Francois Labrequ » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:32:05



> > While trying to fix the sound, I enabled PNP in the BIOS, which made my
> > NIC *out, but at least now X works.  Back to sleuthing, I guess...

> Sound as would videocard and nic share the same irq. videocards often "want"
> an own irq. Try this in the bios.

That's what I'm investigating as well.  But why would it work with
2.2.17 and not 2.4.3?

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Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Dan Osterrat » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:50:47


Quote:> That's what I'm investigating as well.  But why would it work with
> 2.2.17 and not 2.4.3?

Well the kernel driver for the nic is probably newer and now tries to share
the irq when it detects that this irq is already in use. The older probably
could not share irqs and always set the nic to another irq.
If you have also the hardware acceleration for your videocard in the kernel
then the same problem could also occur here.
Try to give them an own irq in the bios.
 
 
 

Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Peter T. Breue » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 02:49:20



>> That's what I'm investigating as well.  But why would it work with
>> 2.2.17 and not 2.4.3?
> Well the kernel driver for the nic is probably newer and now tries to share
> the irq when it detects that this irq is already in use. The older probably
> could not share irqs and always set the nic to another irq.
> If you have also the hardware acceleration for your videocard in the kernel
> then the same problem could also occur here.
> Try to give them an own irq in the bios.

Why does a videocard require an IRQ? Surely it can't possibly deliver
or receive interrupts! Not at a rate related to what it does, anyway.

Try turning off the irq for the video in the bios.

Peter

 
 
 

Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by jurriaan kalkm » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:16:32


On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:32:05 -0400, Francois Labreque


>> > While trying to fix the sound, I enabled PNP in the BIOS, which made my
>> > NIC *out, but at least now X works.  Back to sleuthing, I guess...

>> Sound as would videocard and nic share the same irq. videocards often "want"
>> an own irq. Try this in the bios.

> That's what I'm investigating as well.  But why would it work with
> 2.2.17 and not 2.4.3?

There are differences in interrupt-handling between 2.2.17 and 2.4.3. I
could have sworn that in 2.2.x, my interrupts ran up to 19 on this SMP
Abit VP6. Now, in 2.4.3-ac12, I see in /proc/interrupts:

           CPU0       CPU1      
  0:     155978     151576    IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:       9152       8407    IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
  2:          0          0          XT-PIC  cascade
  5:          0          0   IO-APIC-level  usb-uhci, usb-uhci
  8:          1          1    IO-APIC-edge  rtc
 11:      11912      11979   IO-APIC-level  ide2, ide3, EMU10K1
 14:       4223       4025    IO-APIC-edge  ide0
 15:      15848      16004   IO-APIC-level  sym53c8xx, PCnet/PCI II 79C970A

The rationale behind this isn't quite clear to me, but it works.

Jurriaan
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Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Dan Osterrat » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:12:22


Quote:> Try turning off the irq for the video in the bios.

At least the nVidia cards make problems without an irq. Don't know about
other cards.
 
 
 

Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by H Dziardzi » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:14:53


On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:49:20 +0200, "Peter T. Breuer"


>Why does a videocard require an IRQ? Surely it can't possibly deliver
>or receive interrupts! Not at a rate related to what it does, anyway.

>Try turning off the irq for the video in the bios.

>Peter

AGP requires an IRQ apparently
 
 
 

Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine...

Post by Peter T. Breue » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:57:25



> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:49:20 +0200, "Peter T. Breuer"

>>Why does a videocard require an IRQ? Surely it can't possibly deliver
>>or receive interrupts! Not at a rate related to what it does, anyway.

>>Try turning off the irq for the video in the bios.
> AGP requires an IRQ apparently

?? I religiously turn off video irqs in the bios (mostly matrox g200 and
S4 savage .. all agp).

Peter

 
 
 

1. I found it! (Was: Upgraded to kernel 2.4.3, now X freezes my machine)

[Sorry if this doesn't thread properly, my newsserver has expired the
original message]

I found what my problem was: X was freezing while probing for my
videocard (S3 Trio3D).  I still don't know why it would work properly
with 2.2.14, though.

I had to specify the videochip, ramdac and clockchip in XF86Config to
work around it.

Now everything works.  Yay!
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