Very Computer

Here's another one:

Having recently purchased Accelerated-X (which is damn fast, I might
add),
I have started having problems going from GUI to console. I poked around

at XiG's site and found an update for the 4.1.1 version that says it
fixes
what sounds like the problem that I'm having, but I have 4.1.2 and the
same
update is not available for my version. Having accidentally installed a
4.1.0 patch and broken  my machine, I'm not up to taking a chance with
the patch for a different version.

Here's what happens... nothing. The screen goes blank. The console is
there,
'cause I have no problem typing

root<return>
password<return>
reboot<return>

I just don't have a display. This only happens when I'm using a non-80
column
text mode (ie: 132x25... my favorite :).

Here's one more before I list my hardware:

Normal xterm doesn't work with color ls (ls --color) anymore, I have to
use nxterm (and I don't like that motif scrollbar). Using xterm, colors
show
up as bold, not colored. Funny, it used to work (last week) BEFORE I
installed Accelerated-X. Something else that's different, bold stuff
like
lables in man, show up in black now. I'm sure they weren't like that
before. My xterm backgrounds are black, so reading the text is a
problem.
does anyone know where the color configuration for man entries is? I'm
assuming it has something to do with groff or less, but I don't know
anything about it.

Thanks!
James Cleland

Redhat Linux 5.1 custom kernel
Triteal CDE 40
Matrox Millenium II - 220mHz RAMDAC - 16meg
Viewsonic G810
Accelerated-X (duh, right?)

Can't think of anything else... oh yeah, the colordepth is 16bpp... er
Pentium II
with 128meg... yeah... that's it.

Thanks for the response. I'll try the 'setfont' next time I need to go
console. As far as the echo, nope, it's not red. I just installed everything
on your CD. What should I uninstall and can I do it by hand? The last
uninstall left me without an Xserver, so I'd rather just move stuff
around/set some links if I can get away with it. Can I just replace the xterm
binary? Do you keep the old one somewhere after your install?

Thanks!
James

Quote:> Here's another one:
> Having recently purchased Accelerated-X (which is damn fast, I might
> add),
> I have started having problems going from GUI to console. I poked around
> at XiG's site and found an update for the 4.1.1 version that says it
> fixes
> what sounds like the problem that I'm having, but I have 4.1.2 and the
> same
> update is not available for my version. Having accidentally installed a
> 4.1.0 patch and broken  my machine, I'm not up to taking a chance with
> the patch for a different version.
> Here's what happens... nothing. The screen goes blank. The console is
> there,
> 'cause I have no problem typing
> root<return>
> password<return>
> reboot<return>
> I just don't have a display. This only happens when I'm using a non-80
> column
> text mode (ie: 132x25... my favorite :).

        Yeah... as you might have read from other people here, 80x25 is
the only one really supported under accelx...  Just for kicks, see if
typeing 'setfont' corrects the problem...

Quote:> Here's one more before I list my hardware:
> Normal xterm doesn't work with color ls (ls --color) anymore, I have to
> use nxterm (and I don't like that motif scrollbar). Using xterm, colors
> show
> up as bold, not colored. Funny, it used to work (last week) BEFORE I
> installed Accelerated-X. Something else that's different, bold stuff
> like
> lables in man, show up in black now. I'm sure they weren't like that
> before. My xterm backgrounds are black, so reading the text is a
> problem.

        Hmmm... when you installed accelx, did you install only the
Xserver?  If so, then xterm shouldn't have been affected.  (the xterm
supplied with our environment (libs, etc) doesn't support color).

try: echo -e '\033[31mHithere\033[0m'

        ...in the xterm.  You should get a red 'hithere'.  If you do, then
the problem lies elsewhere..

Quote:> Redhat Linux 5.1 custom kernel
> Triteal CDE 40
> Matrox Millenium II - 220mHz RAMDAC - 16meg
> Viewsonic G810
> Accelerated-X (duh, right?)

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#include <stddisclaimer.h>
The avalanche has already started,
      it is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Kosh (Babylon 5)

which environment is that? - oh I see.  But elsewhere in this newsgroup
it's claimed that Xi is a superset of XFree86.  I guess not.

The XFree86 3.3.2 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
There's an faq at
        http://www.veryComputer.com/
        ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm

--
Thomas E.*ey

http://www.veryComputer.com/

Why has xig become the MS of the Linux world? I see more bashing of them
than any other software provider for Linux. Why is this? Many other
companies provide software at a price for Linux but xig seems to bear the
brunt of these attacks. Just curious as to why this is.
Can someone clue me in? It seems as if it is just a political judgement by
zealots. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I have one box with a #9 Revolution 3D card that I have never been able to
work under Xfree 3.3.2 even though I have been told by others that they got
it to work. I also see on the xig web site that the benchmark using the
server product they provide for this card is one of the highest they list. I
paid nothing for Linux, so I now can't spend anything for a server to allow
me to use a video card I paid a good piece of change for without being some
sort of Linux traitor? If this is true the all I can say to those who follow
this line of thinking is  F -You.

  Jesus, dude, take a deep breath and relax! All I did was ask why my xterm
didn't work with ls -color anymore. I mailed the question to XiG and also to a
couple of groups, so what? I don't see anything in my original post that
qualifies as Xig bashing, in fact, I mentioned the great performance I noticed
after installing the server.

Don't trip over your soapbox and be sure to bend at the knees. With that chip
on your shoulder, you're likely to hurt your back.

I'm out
J

Deep breath....
case of mistaken identity there ....dude. I wasn't responding to your post.
In fact it isn't even in the thread I'm seeing on comp.os.linux.x via
Sprynet.news. So I don't know what your post even says. I was responding to
a post by..lets see...Mr.*ey.

Quote:>Don't trip over your soapbox and be sure to bend at the knees. With that
chip
>on your shoulder, you're likely to hurt your back.

and BTW, my soapbox is pretty low to the floor and I do like a good bend at
the knees.
My back is a little sore..but that's because...oh never mind ;+)

        Eh?  Claimed by who? The 'environment' we ship is straight from
the opengroup with some bug fixes and changes to the build env.  We also
include some some software from the contrib tree.  TOG doesn't supply
color xterm in the sample implementation, so neither do we.  That doesn't
mean we won't in the future, but the current shipping product does not
contain a color xterm.  Most of the flame wars in this group concerning
accelx revolve around the server... haven't seen anything refering to (or
making claims about) the environment, though since I don't read every
article in this group every day I could certainly be wrong.

--

Xi Graphics,   http://www.xig.com
ID: 1A9A2B09, FP: C23F328A721264E7 B6188192EC733962

#include <stddisclaimer.h>
The avalanche has already started,
      it is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Kosh (Babylon 5)

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Quote:> Thanks for the response. I'll try the 'setfont' next time I need to go
> console. As far as the echo, nope, it's not red. I just installed everything
> on your CD. What should I uninstall and can I do it by hand? The last
> uninstall left me without an Xserver, so I'd rather just move stuff
> around/set some links if I can get away with it. Can I just replace the xterm
> binary? Do you keep the old one somewhere after your install?

        Ahh. For RH 5.x (until we get glibc products out) we recommend
that you install only the Xserver portion via CUSTOM install.  It looks
like the FULL install overwrote your existing xterm with an older
(non-color) version.  I'm not sure if you'll just be able to re-install
the standard XF xterm binary or not... you could certainly try...

--

Xi Graphics,   http://www.xig.com
ID: 1A9A2B09, FP: C23F328A721264E7 B6188192EC733962

#include <stddisclaimer.h>
The avalanche has already started,
      it is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Kosh (Babylon 5)

  Just an update. I finished reinstalling the AX server after a forceful
re-install of my XFree86 stuff. Had to set a few links (namely /usr/X11R6/bin
->/usr/bin/X11) before anything worked, but all is well now, after all. My XF
xterm is back with the program and color ls works fine. Thanks!

James

Now If I could just get someone to help me out with the wtmp/utmp stuff...