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by **Moses Milazz** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> Christopher's explanation is a good discussion of the underlying
> mechanics of apps under GUIs on Linux, and I doubt I can improve
> on it. What I can do is give you my actual experience:

> The system I'm typing this on has been running now for 38 1/2 days
> without reboot. I use it for web surfing/email/news, business stuff
> (mostly spreadsheets at the moment), and development in C++ and
> Perl (I'm just learning Perl, so there are lots of errors). I
> run KDE almost exclusively for everything I do - if I do command
> line stuff, I do it in a KDE xterm. I have also installed at least
> half a dozen pieces of software over that period.

I've been running the Open Look Virtual Windows Manager (OLVWM)on
Slackware 7.0 for well over 100 days, with basically no problems at all. I've
had
a couple applications crash on me, but that had nothing to do with the WM, and
didn't do anything to the WM.
Whenever there is a problem, I can kill off the offending program generally with
out touching the WM. When I do have to touch the WM, it NEVER hurts the
rest of the system (yeah, I have to kill the apps that are running over the WM),
I
haven't rebooted the machine in about 120 days, and that last reboot was because
I upgraded the kernel.
I had KDE and Gnome running on this same machine running RedHat 6.1 for a while,
but it wasn't nearly stable enough for me, and I had to return to Slackware.
I use this machine for image processing, so I need something which is very
stable, and on
which the Window Manager uses very little memory. Slack's stable, and OLVWM is
the most stable, smallest memory hog I've used.

Cheers,
Moses

by **Anh L** » Sat, 29 Jul 2000 04:00:00

well, i don't anything is crash proof...but for me, if it were to crash, i
would like it not to hang user input and it has to be viusally appealing. my
pick: Enlligtenmet, ALONE...not with GNOME or KDE. they are curses.
if Enlightenment crashes...you fly to console, but that is very rare. if you
code with vim, just make sure you have the backup option on if you are
paronoid of crashes of the gui. or code in console =)
if you have a machine that isn't whimpy, and you like a fast and easy to
customize interface without that silly bar at the bottom of the screen, use E.
actually, E fanatics don't call E a windowmanager...we like to say "graphical
shell" =)
and it has a nifty termincal called Eterm. E is the MOST configurable
"graphical shell" and without a doubt Eterm is the most configurable terminal.
and if you want to brave Eterm out of CVS, it has even more f?atures like font
fx..emboss...drop shadow..some others i can't think of...

cheers!

>> Christopher's explanation is a good discussion of the underlying
>> mechanics of apps under GUIs on Linux, and I doubt I can improve
>> on it. What I can do is give you my actual experience:

>> The system I'm typing this on has been running now for 38 1/2 days
>> without reboot. I use it for web surfing/email/news, business stuff
>> (mostly spreadsheets at the moment), and development in C++ and
>> Perl (I'm just learning Perl, so there are lots of errors). I
>> run KDE almost exclusively for everything I do - if I do command
>> line stuff, I do it in a KDE xterm. I have also installed at least
>> half a dozen pieces of software over that period.

>I've been running the Open Look Virtual Windows Manager (OLVWM)on
>Slackware 7.0 for well over 100 days, with basically no problems at all. I've
>had
>a couple applications crash on me, but that had nothing to do with the WM, and
>didn't do anything to the WM.
>Whenever there is a problem, I can kill off the offending program generally with
>out touching the WM. When I do have to touch the WM, it NEVER hurts the
>rest of the system (yeah, I have to kill the apps that are running over the WM),
>I
>haven't rebooted the machine in about 120 days, and that last reboot was because
>I upgraded the kernel.
>I had KDE and Gnome running on this same machine running RedHat 6.1 for a while,
>but it wasn't nearly stable enough for me, and I had to return to Slackware.
>I use this machine for image processing, so I need something which is very
>stable, and on
>which the Window Manager uses very little memory. Slack's stable, and OLVWM is
>the most stable, smallest memory hog I've used.

>Cheers,
>Moses

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