Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by rawlin.. » Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:06:16



Harware is Dell Inspiron 8200, about 2.5 years old. 2GB RAM. Fedora
Core 2 OS. I'm getting some inconsistent performance running Flightgear
flight simulator, and am wondering if the 28MB NVIDIA GeForce2 card
that came with my system is causing some problems with memory access.
Here's what happens:  In the past week, with a few windows open on my
KDE desktop, the planes engine would sound like it sputters, and
there's a discontinuity between input of my joystich which affects the
plane (it pitch up or down). I just noticed that if I click on the red
hat on tool bar when plane is on runway, I hear the discontinuity
(memory access delay?) as menu options open up.  It's as if as images
appear on my screen, there's an effect on flight simulator performance.
 I know flightgear is pretty graphics intensive.

I'm using a ViewSonic 1600x1200 external LCD monitor.

Is there any way I can tell if the NVIDIA card is not robust enough to
run the simulator?  I don't want to spend big $$$ on a better video
card without being sure that's the problem.  The video driver was
updated recently for the latest kernal release.

TIA,
Mike

 
 
 

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by Minderbinde » Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:47:02



> Harware is Dell Inspiron 8200, about 2.5 years old. 2GB RAM. Fedora
> Core 2 OS. I'm getting some inconsistent performance running Flightgear
> flight simulator, and am wondering if the 28MB NVIDIA GeForce2 card
> that came with my system is causing some problems with memory access.
> Here's what happens:  In the past week, with a few windows open on my
> KDE desktop, the planes engine would sound like it sputters, and
> there's a discontinuity between input of my joystich which affects the
> plane (it pitch up or down). I just noticed that if I click on the red
> hat on tool bar when plane is on runway, I hear the discontinuity
> (memory access delay?) as menu options open up.  It's as if as images
> appear on my screen, there's an effect on flight simulator performance.
>  I know flightgear is pretty graphics intensive.

> I'm using a ViewSonic 1600x1200 external LCD monitor.

> Is there any way I can tell if the NVIDIA card is not robust enough to
> run the simulator?  I don't want to spend big $$$ on a better video
> card without being sure that's the problem.  The video driver was
> updated recently for the latest kernal release.

> TIA,
> Mike

Video cards with shared memory can have pretty lacklustre performance, so
that could be your issue. Is it possible to turn down the detail settings
in the game? If you turn down the detail and get a big performance
improvement it's a good sign that your card is causing problems.

Other things that might help are turning down your desktop/in-game
resolution to save memory, and ensuring that you have recent video
drivers. If you can borrow an AGP card (even if it's not the latest and
greatest) from a friend it'll help you test the performance before
shelling out on a new card.

Cheers,
Minderbinder.

 
 
 

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by rawlin.. » Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:02:52




> > Harware is Dell Inspiron 8200, about 2.5 years old. 2GB RAM. Fedora
> > Core 2 OS. I'm getting some inconsistent performance running
Flightgear
> > flight simulator, and am wondering if the 28MB NVIDIA GeForce2 card
> > that came with my system is causing some problems with memory
access.
> > Here's what happens:  In the past week, with a few windows open on
my
> > KDE desktop, the planes engine would sound like it sputters, and
> > there's a discontinuity between input of my joystich which affects
the
> > plane (it pitch up or down). I just noticed that if I click on the
red
> > hat on tool bar when plane is on runway, I hear the discontinuity
> > (memory access delay?) as menu options open up.  It's as if as
images
> > appear on my screen, there's an effect on flight simulator
performance.
> >  I know flightgear is pretty graphics intensive.

> > I'm using a ViewSonic 1600x1200 external LCD monitor.

> > Is there any way I can tell if the NVIDIA card is not robust enough
to
> > run the simulator?  I don't want to spend big $$$ on a better video
> > card without being sure that's the problem.  The video driver was
> > updated recently for the latest kernal release.

> > TIA,
> > Mike

> Video cards with shared memory can have pretty lacklustre
performance, so
> that could be your issue. Is it possible to turn down the detail
settings
> in the game? If you turn down the detail and get a big performance
> improvement it's a good sign that your card is causing problems.

I see a big improvement if I ensure that only one shell window is open.
Nothing else and nothing on other desktops.  I'll minimize the scenery
details next.

Quote:

> Other things that might help are turning down your desktop/in-game
> resolution to save memory, and ensuring that you have recent video
> drivers. If you can borrow an AGP card (even if it's not the latest
and
> greatest) from a friend it'll help you test the performance before
> shelling out on a new card.

> Cheers,
> Minderbinder.

There are many workstations and PCs here at work. I'll see if I can
locate an AGP card to test.  Thanks for the tips.

Mike

 
 
 

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by John-Paul Stewar » Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:47:14



> Harware is Dell Inspiron 8200, about 2.5 years old. 2GB RAM. Fedora
> Core 2 OS. I'm getting some inconsistent performance running Flightgear
> flight simulator, and am wondering if the 28MB NVIDIA GeForce2 card
> that came with my system is causing some problems with memory access.

Are you using Nvidia's proprietary (accelerated) driver or the
open-source (unaccelerated) driver?

Do you really mean Dell Inspiron (that's a laptop line from Dell) or is
this a desktop system (maybe Dell Dimension)?

 
 
 

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by rawlin.. » Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:22:18


Sorry, its a _32MB_ driver. The paperwork I got with the laptop says
32MB DDR 4X AGP NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 3D video.  I guess this is a
proprietary driver? It was one option for configuration when laptop was
ordered. The other choices were a 32MB NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go or a 64MB
NVIDIA GeForce4 440. Yes, I have a Dell Inspiron laptop. My sys admin
at work says the graphic for laptops, in general,  lag behind those for
desktops.  I use this laptop at work along with a 1600x1200 external
monitor and the flight sim is installed on it.  This way if I want to
stay at home and work, I simply bring my work (laptop) home!

Mike

 
 
 

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by John-Paul Stewar » Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:28:11


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>>> Harware is Dell Inspiron 8200, about 2.5 years old. 2GB RAM. Fedora
>>> Core 2 OS. I'm getting some inconsistent performance running Flightgear
>>> flight simulator, and am wondering if the 28MB NVIDIA GeForce2 card
>>> that came with my system is causing some problems with memory access.

> Are you using Nvidia's proprietary (accelerated) driver or the
> open-source (unaccelerated) driver?

> Do you really mean Dell Inspiron (that's a laptop line from Dell) or is
> this a desktop system (maybe Dell Dimension)?
> Sorry, its a _32MB_ driver.

You mean 32MB graphics card.  The driver is a piece of software.  What
is the output of 'glxinfo | grep renderer'.  That'll provide useful
information about the driver you're using.
 
 
 

Is my NVIDIA GeForce2 not getting it done

Post by rawlin.. » Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:09



> [When replying to a newsgroup posting, please quote the relevant part
of
> the message to which you're replying.  Context restored.]




> >>> Harware is Dell Inspiron 8200, about 2.5 years old. 2GB RAM.
Fedora
> >>> Core 2 OS. I'm getting some inconsistent performance running
Flightgear
> >>> flight simulator, and am wondering if the 28MB NVIDIA GeForce2
card
> >>> that came with my system is causing some problems with memory
access.

> > Are you using Nvidia's proprietary (accelerated) driver or the
> > open-source (unaccelerated) driver?

> > Do you really mean Dell Inspiron (that's a laptop line from Dell)
or is
> > this a desktop system (maybe Dell Dimension)?

> > Sorry, its a _32MB_ driver.

> You mean 32MB graphics card.  The driver is a piece of software.
What
> is the output of 'glxinfo | grep renderer'.  That'll provide useful
> information about the driver you're using.

Yikees. I'm typing and not thinking.

glxinfo | grep renderer gives:
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE2

This is Nvidia's proprietary driver, no?

Mike

 
 
 

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