Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by William Boy » Mon, 04 Dec 1995 04:00:00



I'm upgrading my 486DX2/66 with either a Pentium overdrive (84MHz) or a
486 DX4/100.  I'm mostly concerned with numeric computations.  Which
processor will give me the best performance in number crunching?

Thanks

 
 
 

Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by s.. » Thu, 07 Dec 1995 04:00:00



>I'm upgrading my 486DX2/66 with either a Pentium overdrive (84MHz) or a
>486 DX4/100.  I'm mostly concerned with numeric computations.  Which
>processor will give me the best performance in number crunching?

Probalby the dx4, check www.amd.com

 
 
 

Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by David Pla » Sat, 09 Dec 1995 04:00:00




>>I'm upgrading my 486DX2/66 with either a Pentium overdrive (84MHz) or a
>>486 DX4/100.  I'm mostly concerned with numeric computations.  Which
>>processor will give me the best performance in number crunching?

>Probalby the dx4, check www.amd.com

The company I work for upgraded our 486DX2-66 systems to the Pentium
Overdrive 83MHz chips.  My niece has a 486DX4-120.  The Overdrive 83MHz
benchmarked faster on floating point than the 486DX4-120 with write back
cache.  The AMD DX4-120 benchmarked equivalent to a Pentium 75MHz on
Integer Math.

NOTE THAT IT IS A PENTIUM 83MHz not an 84MHz!

 
 
 

Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by Javaan Singh Cha » Mon, 11 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: I'm upgrading my 486DX2/66 with either a Pentium overdrive (84MHz) or a
: 486 DX4/100.  I'm mostly concerned with numeric computations.  Which
: processor will give me the best performance in number crunching?

: Thanks

The Pentium OD is more expensive, but should be much better than a 486 class
processor for floating point. Usually the only benchmark results you see
around the place are integer based, particularly for PC's.

good luck

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Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by Mike Fris » Mon, 11 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: The company I work for upgraded our 486DX2-66 systems to the Pentium
: Overdrive 83MHz chips.  My niece has a 486DX4-120.  The Overdrive 83MHz
: benchmarked faster on floating point than the 486DX4-120 with write back
: cache.  The AMD DX4-120 benchmarked equivalent to a Pentium 75MHz on
: Integer Math.

        This is definitely a surprise to me, but given the performance of
the Pentium, this SHOULD be the case.  At any rate, given the extremely
high cost of the Pentium Overdrive, it's much more cost-effective to go
with a 486DX4/1x0.  These CPUs are dirt cheap and make great Linux boxes.

Mike.

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Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by Alex Martel » Wed, 13 Dec 1995 04:00:00


        ...

Quote:>high cost of the Pentium Overdrive, it's much more cost-effective to go
>with a 486DX4/1x0.  These CPUs are dirt cheap and make great Linux boxes.

I have a question, though -- can I just buy any chip identified as an
"AMD 486 DX4/100", and just plug it in my old motherboard in place of its
old Intel 486 DX33, like I could for the overdrive chip?  I can get a
pretty good price on the AMD chip, but the seller is unable to tell me
whether it's a 3.3V or 5V part, whether the pinout is exactly identical
to the old 486 DX33, etc etc... AND it's nonreturnable if I do buy it:-(.

I _would_ like to give an extra lease of life to my old machine, and
many tasks (particularly compilations) do seem to be (integer) CPU
bound, judging from xosview and other performance monitors (100% CPU
load with almost no paging, etc) -- but if I can't be sure that I can
use the AMD part in a plug&play way, then maybe I'm better off with
an Overdrive chip which IS guaranteed to "just plug in" in place of
the older CPU chip... given the price/performance promise of the AMD's,
though, I'd much rather go with one of those IF I knew it worked...

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Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by Christopher M. Woo » Mon, 18 Dec 1995 04:00:00


The AMD DX4 class chips are 3.3V chips.... So long as you motherboard can
be set to:
        1) 3.3 (or better 3.45V) power
        2) 40MHz and triple the clock
        3) WriteBack cache (for SV8B chips, otherwise Write Through.)

There shouldn't be any problem

-Chris



: : I'm upgrading my 486DX2/66 with either a Pentium overdrive (84MHz) or a
: : 486 DX4/100.  I'm mostly concerned with numeric computations.  Which
: : processor will give me the best performance in number crunching?

: : Thanks

: The Pentium OD is more expensive, but should be much better than a 486 class
: processor for floating point. Usually the only benchmark results you see
: around the place are integer based, particularly for PC's.

: good luck

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Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by Derek Wildst » Thu, 21 Dec 1995 04:00:00



: The AMD DX4 class chips are 3.3V chips.... So long as you motherboard can
: be set to:
:       1) 3.3 (or better 3.45V) power
:       2) 40MHz and triple the clock
:       3) WriteBack cache (for SV8B chips, otherwise Write Through.)
:
: There shouldn't be any problem
:

There are also adaptors available so the AMD 3.3v chips can be used on
a 5.0v motherboard.  These are usally sold with the CPU and are only
$10-20 more.  This makes the upgrade very simple, you just leave the
board set for the intel chip and install the new CPU, change the bus
speed if necessary.  Definately much easier than tearing your computer
apart, and WAY cheaper if you don't know what you're doing.

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Pentium Overdrive vs DX4/100

Post by Hyong L » Sat, 23 Dec 1995 04:00:00



>The AMD DX4 class chips are 3.3V chips.... So long as you motherboard can
>be set to:
>    1) 3.3 (or better 3.45V) power
>    2) 40MHz and triple the clock
>    3) WriteBack cache (for SV8B chips, otherwise Write Through.)
>There shouldn't be any problem
>-Chris


>: : I'm upgrading my 486DX2/66 with either a Pentium overdrive (84MHz) or a
>: : 486 DX4/100.  I'm mostly concerned with numeric computations.  Which
>: : processor will give me the best performance in number crunching?
>: : Thanks
>: The Pentium OD is more expensive, but should be much better than a 486 class
>: processor for floating point. Usually the only benchmark results you see
>: around the place are integer based, particularly for PC's.
>: good luck
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>: |     Centre for Visual Sciences,       |                             |
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I'd like to chime in here with my own experience. I recently upgraded to an
enhanced AMD 486/120. My motherboard has a jumper for 3.3/4/5V cpu voltage and
also has bios options for the wb cache. Although the chip worked at 100 MHz, I
had trouble with xv and kernel compiles at 120 MHz (though Windows seemed to
work fine). As it turned out, the chip is very finicky about the voltage it's
driven at, and when I set the motherboard to feed it 4V, it worked fine. So,
you might want to be careful -- if you're only going for an amd dx4/100, you'll
probably be golden. But at 120 MHz, check the processor carefully to make sure
everything still works. Also, I believe the Intel incarnation of the 100 MHz
chip has a 16K internal cache vs 8K for the amd; they're both wb, unless you
specify the old 100 MHz amd chip, which is write through.

Finally, here are some numbers from the Ziff-Davis Winbench96 benchmark. CPU16
and CPU32 are 16- and 32- bit program suites.

Machine                         CPU16                   CPU32

AMD486/100                      126                     131
AMD486/120                      142                     158

Gateway 486/66 "Family PC"    65                      61
Compaq P5/66                    142                     144
Dell P/100                      204                     208

The last three machines are from the database of results that came with the
benchmark.

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1. DX4/100 vs. pentium _VLB_ benchmark results?

I will have to do some computing intensive stuff (analog circuit
simulation with spice3) in the near future. Therefor I consider to
get a new motherboard for my linux box, which is presently
a 486/33 ISA with 20 MB.

I dont want to get a PCI board because my SIMMS will not fit in there :-(.
So the alternative is either

a) 486/DX100 VLB   or

b) pentium P60/66/(90?) VLB.

I wonder if my 80ns SIMMS would be the bottleneck in a >33Mhz system.
Which is the best price/performance decision here?

Ronald

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