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by **ANT..** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:26:05

Hello, I am debating if I should get a 9800 model or 9700 model. I
notice on http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#features ... 9800
isn't listed. Is anyone using 9800 in Linux? I have an old Red Hat
Linux 7.2 system with compiled Kernel 2.4.20. I am worry if I buy a
9800, then I won't have a display driver for 2D and 3D (yes, I play
games in Linux).

Thank you in advance. :)
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by **Arto V. Viitan** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:08:33

ANTant> Hello, I am debating if I should get a 9800 model or 9700 model. I
ANTant> notice on http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#features
ANTant> ... 9800 isn't listed. Is anyone using 9800 in Linux? I have an old
ANTant> Red Hat Linux 7.2 system with compiled Kernel 2.4.20. I am worry if
ANTant> I buy a 9800, then I won't have a display driver for 2D and 3D (yes,
ANTant> I play games in Linux).

I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not tried
any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux, and it have a
package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with drivers for X. The drivers
are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but supports also normal cards.

There was some problems on installing the driver, until I noticed that there
can be no DRI or similar support compiled onto the kernel; the driver uses
its own means.

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by **spamtra** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:13:52

Quote:>I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not tried
>any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux, and it have a
>package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with drivers for X. The drivers
>are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but supports also normal cards.

What sort of framerate are you getting with glgears?
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by **ANT..** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:59:50

> ANTant> Hello, I am debating if I should get a 9800 model or 9700 model. I
> ANTant> notice on http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#features
> ANTant> ... 9800 isn't listed. Is anyone using 9800 in Linux? I have an old
> ANTant> Red Hat Linux 7.2 system with compiled Kernel 2.4.20. I am worry if
> ANTant> I buy a 9800, then I won't have a display driver for 2D and 3D (yes,
> ANTant> I play games in Linux).
> I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not tried
> any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux, and it have a
> package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with drivers for X. The drivers
> are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but supports also normal cards.
> There was some problems on installing the driver, until I noticed that there
> can be no DRI or similar support compiled onto the kernel; the driver uses
> its own means.

Is that what NVIDIA driver does too? Currently, I am using NVIDIA driver
for my slow GeForce4 Ti4200 video card.

What is glxgears? Is that a benchmark program?
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by **spamtra** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:26:05

>What is glxgears? Is that a benchmark program?

glgears is included with most modern distros, you run it from a
command prompt and while drawing the graphics it reports the
framerate. Its not great for benchmarking, but a framerate in the
several hundreds indicates 3D acceleration is working.
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by **Arto Viitan** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:05:54

> >I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not tried
> >any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux, and it have a
> >package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with drivers for X. The drivers
> >are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but supports also normal cards.

> What sort of framerate are you getting with glgears?

About 530 FPS with default resolution. When I maximize the window
(I use resolution 1600x1200), I get 29.2 FPS.

Arto Viitanen

by **John-Paul Stewar** » Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:45:27

> > >I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not tried
> > >any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux, and it have a
> > >package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with drivers for X. The drivers
> > >are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but supports also normal cards.

> > What sort of framerate are you getting with glgears?

> About 530 FPS with default resolution. When I maximize the window
> (I use resolution 1600x1200), I get 29.2 FPS.

Are those numbers from the standard glxgears (image of three rotating
gears) or from ATI's fgl_glxgears (image of three rotating gears on each
side of a rotating cube)? They seem awfully low numbers for the
standard glxgears.

by **spamtra** » Sun, 14 Sep 2003 00:53:44

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:45:27 -0400, John-Paul Stewart

>> About 530 FPS with default resolution. When I maximize the window
>> (I use resolution 1600x1200), I get 29.2 FPS.

>Are those numbers from the standard glxgears (image of three rotating
>gears) or from ATI's fgl_glxgears (image of three rotating gears on each
>side of a rotating cube)? They seem awfully low numbers for the
>standard glxgears.

I am new to the ATI world, and don't have Linux setup on my *
machine, so I can't test it, but 29fps doesn't sound right, I think
that is software rendering.
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by **John-Paul Stewar** » Sun, 14 Sep 2003 02:18:17

> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:45:27 -0400, John-Paul Stewart

> >> About 530 FPS with default resolution. When I maximize the window
> >> (I use resolution 1600x1200), I get 29.2 FPS.

> >Are those numbers from the standard glxgears (image of three rotating
> >gears) or from ATI's fgl_glxgears (image of three rotating gears on each
> >side of a rotating cube)? They seem awfully low numbers for the
> >standard glxgears.

> I am new to the ATI world, and don't have Linux setup on my *
> machine, so I can't test it, but 29fps doesn't sound right, I think
> that is software rendering.

530 FPS sounds about right for the fgl_glxgears test; it is vastly more
complex than the normal glxgears benchmark. I could believe 29 FPS
number for 1600x1200 resolution on a Radeon 9800, I guess.

FWIW, I'm running an ATI FireGL X1 256MB card. I get about 690 FPS from
fgl_glxgears in the default window or 320 FPS at 1280x1024 maximized
window. So at least the previous poster's 530 FPS number sounds
reasonable for his card under fgl_glxgears.

Using the "ordinary" glxgears I get over 4500 FPS in the default window,
dropping to 520 FPS full screen.

by **ANT..** » Sun, 14 Sep 2003 04:02:00

> > > ANTant> Hello, I am debating if I should get a 9800 model or 9700
> > > model. I ANTant> notice on
> > > http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#features ANTant> ... 9800
> > > isn't listed. Is anyone using 9800 in Linux? I have an old ANTant>
> > > Red Hat Linux 7.2 system with compiled Kernel 2.4.20. I am worry if
> > > ANTant> I buy a 9800, then I won't have a display driver for 2D and
> > > 3D (yes, ANTant> I play games in Linux).

> > > I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not
> > > tried any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux,
> > > and it have a package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with
> > > drivers for X. The drivers are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but
> > > supports also normal cards.
> > Yep - also available from ATIs site.
> Sweet. I wonder why ATI didn't mention 9800. I was very worried when
> it didn't mention 9700.

Errr, ... it didn't mention 9800. Too many model numbers!!
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by **Adam K Kirchhof** » Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:13:41

>> > ANTant> Hello, I am debating if I should get a 9800 model or 9700
>> > model. I ANTant> notice on
>> > http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#features ANTant> ... 9800
>> > isn't listed. Is anyone using 9800 in Linux? I have an old ANTant>
>> > Red Hat Linux 7.2 system with compiled Kernel 2.4.20. I am worry if
>> > ANTant> I buy a 9800, then I won't have a display driver for 2D and
>> > 3D (yes, ANTant> I play games in Linux).

>> > I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not
>> > tried any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux,
>> > and it have a package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with
>> > drivers for X. The drivers are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but
>> > supports also normal cards.
>> Yep - also available from ATIs site.
> Sweet. I wonder why ATI didn't mention 9800. I was very worried when
> it didn't mention 9700.
>> > There was some problems on installing the driver, until I noticed
>> > that there can be no DRI or similar support compiled onto the kernel;
>> > the driver uses its own means.
> I looked at my xf86config-4 file and I saw DRI remmed out due to NVIDIA's
> driver. I guess it will be identical for ATI driver.

It will not be. ATI uses the DRI so you need to have that module
loaded.

Adam

by **ANT..** » Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:23:08

Quote:> >> > ANTant> Hello, I am debating if I should get a 9800 model or 9700
> >> > model. I ANTant> notice on
> >> > http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#features ANTant> ... 9800
> >> > isn't listed. Is anyone using 9800 in Linux? I have an old ANTant>
> >> > Red Hat Linux 7.2 system with compiled Kernel 2.4.20. I am worry if
> >> > ANTant> I buy a 9800, then I won't have a display driver for 2D and
> >> > 3D (yes, ANTant> I play games in Linux).

> >> > I have 9800Pro and it works fine on Linux, X and all. Ok, I have not
> >> > tried any games on it, but glxgears roll fine. I have Gentoo Linux,
> >> > and it have a package media-video/ati-drivers, that comes with
> >> > drivers for X. The drivers are fglrx, which is FireGL driver, but
> >> > supports also normal cards.
> >> Yep - also available from ATIs site.
> > Sweet. I wonder why ATI didn't mention 9800. I was very worried when
> > it didn't mention 9700.
> >> > There was some problems on installing the driver, until I noticed
> >> > that there can be no DRI or similar support compiled onto the kernel;
> >> > the driver uses its own means.
> > I looked at my xf86config-4 file and I saw DRI remmed out due to NVIDIA's
> > driver. I guess it will be identical for ATI driver.
> It will not be. ATI uses the DRI so you need to have that module
> loaded.

OK, thanks for the tip. I hope this goes well.
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by **Arto V. Viitan** » Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:27:18

John-Paul> Using the "ordinary" glxgears I get over 4500 FPS in the default
John-Paul> window, dropping to 520 FPS full screen.

I was wondering the same. I previously had NVidia Geforce 3, and it gave me
about 5000 FPS. So it might be, that since I installed the OpenGL using
gentoo packages, it game with some enhanced glxgears.

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