On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 16:54:28 +0000, Scott Waye staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Scott: Don't top-post, and *trim* your posts. Message rearranged to
comply with Usenet conventions.
>>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 15:50:01 GMT, Jim Gilliland staggered into the
>>> Black Sun and said:
>>> > I'm trying to select a suitable motherboard for it. I'm planning
>>> > to use an Athlon board, mostly to keep costs down. But I've read
>>> > Then there's the question of motherboard. Here are the
>>> > constraints:
>>> > 1) microATX Athlon board
>>> > 2) DDR RAM (supporting at least 1GB)
>>> > 3) video, audio, LAN on board (or as many as possible anyway)
>>> > 4) relatively inexpensive
>>> Points 3 and 4 pretty much kill your chances of finding a "good
>>> board". Boards with video/sound/LAN soldered into the board are
>>> typically built for "value" (cheapness), not quality, and onboard
>>> sound chips have a spotty record of working with Linux.
>> That's fine - the whole idea is to keep it inexpensive. I'm not
>> looking for anything fancy, just something that supports and works
>> with Linux.
>>> Lose the "integrated everything" requirement and you'll be much
>>> happier in the long run. For an x86 system, the motherboard is the
>>> *LAST* place you want to cut corners on. You can buy good,
>> Probably true, but if I'm going to do that, I'll need to build a new
>> system rather than trying to upgrade this one. And that'll at least
>> double the cost, maybe more.
?? Er... for an x86, replacing a motherboard *is* roughly equivalent to
"building a new system". You said you need to buy a new
motherboard+processor and new RAM, so what's left? Case, monitor, hard
disks, video card, NIC, sound card. I assume you're transferring a
previously existing monitor, case, and disks. The case is the only
real sticking point; micro-ATX cases and the boards that fit in them are
rarer than ATX cases, and they're not typically aimed at the "power
Quote:>> Your comment about SiS video chips makes me wonder: Is there
>> someplace I can turn to find a reasonably comprehensive list of
>> what's well supported under Linux?
Narrow your hardware choices down to 3 or 4 makes and models, then
Google for "$MAKE $MODEL Linux". Hardware changes so fast and there's
so much of it that there's no comprehensive site that's really up to
date. lhd.datapower.com was trying to keep up, I don't know if they're
still going or not.
Quote:> Last year, I built a system using a PC Chips (www.pcchips.com.tw) PC
> 266 m/board. It has onboard sound/100Mbps NIC/video with an AGP slot
> if you want better video. It takes a K7 AMD chip (XP/Athlon/Duron).
> Works fine for me, runs 24x7.
Wow. PCChips make the cheapest, shoddiest x86 *available (now that
Packard Bell is out of business.) You must've gotten lucky. This isn't
common, don't rely on it.
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