Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Rod Roar » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00



Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

-- Rod

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Tomasz Koryck » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

> -- Rod

  NO. Not in any OS I heard of/can imagine. You have two CPUs, but
everything else is single.
  It IS possible (and has been done), but not in x86 world. But, if
You're ready to pay for UNICOS or MVS, well,.....

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Ben Barret » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00


Try a dual boot.  I "doubt" you could hack ms-doze and linux to run at the
_SAME TIME_ on a single motherboard.  MAYBE two motherboards with some
shared resources.  Are you a hardware person?  or is this an ego-dream?

If you want 'doze&linux at the same time, get two cheap machines!


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Quote:> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

> -- Rod

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Adam Wrigh » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00


No, not on the same machine. One CPU is the slave of the other.
If you must run Winblows/Windoze get another computer.

Adam


> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

> -- Rod

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Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by John Petter Reinerts » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00



Quote:>Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
>each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

>-- Rod

You cannot run two OSs simultanously.
You have to boot one at the time.

But you can have several operative systems installed on the same
machine.

I have now three: win95, Linux RedHat 5.1 and winnt 4.0.
Nt's bootloader gives me the choice which OS to boot.
The different OSs are installed in different partitions.

My system has two processors and two monitors....
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Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Michael Fauro » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00


:>
:> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
:> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?
:>
:> -- Rod

:   NO. Not in any OS I heard of/can imagine. You have two CPUs, but
: everything else is single.
:   It IS possible (and has been done), but not in x86 world. But, if
: You're ready to pay for UNICOS or MVS, well,.....

I may be mistaken on the CPU architecture, but it's my understanding
Sequent has a box that will run both Unix and NT at the same time.
I know Sequent has used Intel processors in the past, I'm not sure if
they still do or not.  Of course this box from Sequent probably costs
about six figures also. :)

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Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by James Youngm » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

It is not.   At least unless you count running one inside the other
using WINE, DosEmu or BOCHS.
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Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Dana Levin » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00


I believe that there are/were macintosh systems with PC processor cards that
could run both MACOS and DOS and switch between them on the fly.
 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Iain R » Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:00:00





>:>
>:> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
>:> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?
>:>
>:> -- Rod

>:   NO. Not in any OS I heard of/can imagine. You have two CPUs, but
>: everything else is single.
>:   It IS possible (and has been done), but not in x86 world. But, if
>: You're ready to pay for UNICOS or MVS, well,.....

>I may be mistaken on the CPU architecture, but it's my understanding
>Sequent has a box that will run both Unix and NT at the same time.
>I know Sequent has used Intel processors in the past, I'm not sure if
>they still do or not.  Of course this box from Sequent probably costs
>about six figures also. :)

The sun starfire will allow you to run 2 versions of solaris
concurrently and dynamically allocate cpu's (and hot swap cpu's for
that matter) of course if you could afford one of those you could
afford a second PC.
 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by stupid_dogg » Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:00:00


I don't think an existing available machine can do this. From hardware
design point of view, it is possible. If you run two OS in the same
machine, the RAM must be allocated to each OS independently.
It is no point to run two OS in one machine with 2 CPU. Why don't use
2 machine instead?


Quote:>Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
>each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

>-- Rod

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Randy Field » Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:00:00



> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

> -- Rod

One of the few cool things SCO does is allow Windows95 to run as a
process under Openserver 5.0.  It works like a charm on the server at
work.  It really runs most anything.  They may even give the OS away for
personal use.  I still prefer linux as SCO has other problems...  I like
having source code at my perusal.

Randy

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Rod Roar » Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:00:00



>I don't think an existing available machine can do this. From hardware
>design point of view, it is possible. If you run two OS in the same
>machine, the RAM must be allocated to each OS independently.
>It is no point to run two OS in one machine with 2 CPU. Why don't use
>2 machine instead?

OK, how about one case, two motherboards?  :-)

Perhaps a setup where 'doze boots up as a diskless workstation running
some X server, and with the Linux mainboard operating as a file server and
X client with no monitor.  I was wondering if anyone has dome something
like this.

The goal is a cheap, integrated solution for people who want to run both
Linux and M$ apps from the same box.  I guess the stickiest question is,
what (bootable) network medium makes sense?

-- Rod

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Frank Sweetse » Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:00:00


Quote:stupid_doggy<at>hotmail.com (j2?a) writes:
> I don't think an existing available machine can do this. From hardware
> design point of view, it is possible. If you run two OS in the same
> machine, the RAM must be allocated to each OS independently.
> It is no point to run two OS in one machine with 2 CPU. Why don't use
> 2 machine instead?

actually, i've heard a rumor that digital unix 5.0 will have this
capability, at least one DEC hardware - not sure what kind of extra
hardware support will be needed...

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Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by stupid_dogg » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00


It is no point to use two motherboard. :-)
If you want to run X in one and Linux file server in the other board,
why not run them at the same machine?
If you want to run some MS software, I think you could find some
emulator. I saw someone use the Win3.1 emulator on their linux (or
unix, forgot) box. I am not sure is there any 95 or 98 emulator or
not.
By the way, I think use two machines is cheaper than use one machine
with two CPU and two set of RAM. Don't expect a dual CPU can double
the speed. You may get even worse if your OS are not written to do
this job fine. I tried with my dual PPro with Windows 95 and NT. Tell
you, I could get around 0.8 to 1.5 times the speed of single CPU only.



>>I don't think an existing available machine can do this. From hardware
>>design point of view, it is possible. If you run two OS in the same
>>machine, the RAM must be allocated to each OS independently.
>>It is no point to run two OS in one machine with 2 CPU. Why don't use
>>2 machine instead?

>OK, how about one case, two motherboards?  :-)

>Perhaps a setup where 'doze boots up as a diskless workstation running
>some X server, and with the Linux mainboard operating as a file server and
>X client with no monitor.  I was wondering if anyone has dome something
>like this.

>The goal is a cheap, integrated solution for people who want to run both
>Linux and M$ apps from the same box.  I guess the stickiest question is,
>what (bootable) network medium makes sense?

>-- Rod

 
 
 

Dual CPUs, Two Operating Systems

Post by Harri Haata » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00




>> Anyone know if it's possible to run M$ Windows and Linux concurrently,
>> each with its own CPU, on any dual CPU motherboard?

>One of the few cool things SCO does is allow Windows95 to run as a
>process under Openserver 5.0.  It works like a charm on the server at
>work.  It really runs most anything.  They may even give the OS away for
>personal use.  I still prefer linux as SCO has other problems...  I like
>having source code at my perusal.

AFAIK there's an x86 board for sparc and I know there are many for m68k/Amiga.
What about these? Linux?

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1. High system CPU% in dual CPU System

I'm experiencing very high system CPU% indications on my new dual
Pentium III machine (SuSE Linux 7.1, Kernel 2.4.4-SMP):

  12:26am  up 1 day,  8:34,  9 users,  load average: 1.44, 2.74, 3.26
116 processes: 113 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states: 19.2% user, 32.0% system,  0.0% nice, 48.2% idle
CPU1 states: 20.4% user, 40.1% system,  0.0% nice, 38.3% idle
Mem:   512180K av,  498144K used,   14036K free,       0K shrd,  145360K buff
Swap: 1024120K av,    8504K used, 1015616K free                   39976K cache

   PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
20308 root       9   0 21056  20M  1744 S     2.7  4.1   6:14 X
30471 capicall  12   0  1020 1020   772 R     0.7  0.1   0:36 top
   594 root       9   0   628  628   480 S     0.5  0.1   6:59 nscd
22072 ingo      17   0  1484 1484   576 R     0.5  0.2   0:00 ps
   596 root       9   0   628  628   480 S     0.3  0.1   6:36 nscd
22467 ingo       9   0  3940 3940  2812 R     0.3  0.7  11:03 gkrellm
22978 ingo       9   0  1380 1380  1132 S     0.3  0.2   0:04 ssh
   597 root       9   0   628  628   480 S     0.1  0.1   6:31 nscd
   598 root       9   0   628  628   480 S     0.1  0.1   6:35 nscd
22071 ingo      17   0  1036 1036   852 S     0.1  0.2   0:00 sh
...

After the initial Installation everything was fine - it must be
caused by some additonal package, but I have no clue.

What can I do to find out what the CPUs are doing during "system" time?

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