Will the real NIC vendor please stand up?

Will the real NIC vendor please stand up?

Post by scott_mille.. » Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:19:35



I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.  It came
with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100 ethernet
card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1), but it's
not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during bootup or in
dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown
device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel.  Fast
back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable. Latency=160.
Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory
at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
conflicting information.

I called Compaq technical support, and the guy I talked to said it was an
Intel product, gave me a couple of part numbers (198721-001 for the NIC,
198720-001 for the modem) and suggested I call Intel to find out what driver
to use.  Intel technical support said they didn't know about the product,
it's probably an OEM so I won't find any info about it on their website, but
it might be a Pro 100 so I should try the e100 driver.  Well, I downloaded
and compiled the e100 driver, but when I try to load it with insmod it just
says "Device or resource busy", just like every other driver I've tried to
load.

I can't find a single mention on the web or in the newsgroups about anyone
installing Linux on a Presario 1700 series laptop, or trying to get a Compaq
MiniPCI ethernet card to work in Linux.  What I did find, though, makes me
suspcious: the vendor id (14f1) matches that reported by Conexant (formerly
Rockwell?) modems.  However, I can't find any evidence that Conexant makes a
MiniPCI ethernet card, only modems.  So what type of beast is this?

I put in another call to Compaq, but I don't expect an answer for a while.
Is there anyone out there who has gotten ethernet working on a Presario 1700
laptop and/or a Compaq MiniPCI combo card?

Thanks,

       Scott

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Post by Andrew E. Schulma » Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:58:35


Quote:> I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.  It came
> with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100 ethernet
> card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1), but it's
> not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during bootup or in
> dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

> Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown
> device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel.  Fast
> back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable. Latency=160.
> Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory
> at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

> I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
> conflicting information.

A suggestion: if your laptop also runs Windows, download and install Sandra
from http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra/.  This is a shareware
diagnostic suite.  Go to the "PCI and AGP buses information" module, and
you'll see a lot of information about your NIC, including "OEM device name"
and "OEM hardware ID".  You might find some new information there.  I was
suprised to see that my SMC NIC is manufactured by Accton.

Good luck,
Andrew.

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew E. Schulma » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:53:06


> > A suggestion: if your laptop also runs Windows, download and install Sandra
> > from http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra/.  This is a shareware
> > diagnostic suite.  Go to the "PCI and AGP buses information" module, and
> > you'll see a lot of information about your NIC, including "OEM device name"
> > and "OEM hardware ID".  You might find some new information there.  I was
> > suprised to see that my SMC NIC is manufactured by Accton.


> PCI devices found:
> ...
>   Bus  0, device  20, function  0:
>     Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 6).
>       Vendor id=1106. Device id=3043.
>       Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min
> ...

> Wouldn't that do the same sort of thing?

I don't know.  Maybe.
 
 
 

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Post by Scott Mille » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:50:53




Quote:> > I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.
 It came
> > with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100
ethernet
> > card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1),
but it's
> > not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during
bootup or in
> > dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

> > Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor
Unknown
> > device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel.  Fast
> > back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable.
Latency=160.
> > Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32
bit memory
> > at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

> > I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
> > conflicting information.

> A suggestion: if your laptop also runs Windows, download and install
Sandra
> from http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra/.  This is a shareware
> diagnostic suite.  Go to the "PCI and AGP buses information" module,
and
> you'll see a lot of information about your NIC, including "OEM device
name"
> and "OEM hardware ID".  You might find some new information there.  I
was
> suprised to see that my SMC NIC is manufactured by Accton.

> Good luck,
> Andrew.

Nifty little tool -- thanks for the tip.  It didn't provide any new
information, though.  It said the OEM Device Name is "Conexant Unknown",
and the OEM Hardware ID is "FUN_0,VEN_14F1,DEV_1803".  It just verifies
that Compaq gave me misinformation.

So, anyone else out there have a Conexant MiniPCI NIC?

      Scott

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Post by Duan » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 03:00:08



> I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.  It came
> with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100 ethernet
> card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1), but it's
> not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during bootup or in
> dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

> Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown
> device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel.  Fast
> back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable. Latency=160.
> Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory
> at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

> I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
> conflicting information.

> I called Compaq technical support, and the guy I talked to said it was an
> Intel product, gave me a couple of part numbers (198721-001 for the NIC,
> 198720-001 for the modem) and suggested I call Intel to find out what driver
> to use.  Intel technical support said they didn't know about the product,
> it's probably an OEM so I won't find any info about it on their website, but
> it might be a Pro 100 so I should try the e100 driver.  Well, I downloaded
> and compiled the e100 driver, but when I try to load it with insmod it just
> says "Device or resource busy", just like every other driver I've tried to
> load.

> I can't find a single mention on the web or in the newsgroups about anyone
> installing Linux on a Presario 1700 series laptop, or trying to get a Compaq
> MiniPCI ethernet card to work in Linux.  What I did find, though, makes me
> suspcious: the vendor id (14f1) matches that reported by Conexant (formerly
> Rockwell?) modems.  However, I can't find any evidence that Conexant makes a
> MiniPCI ethernet card, only modems.  So what type of beast is this?

Yep, vendor ID 14f1 is definitely Conexant, see:
http://www.yourvote.com/pci/pciread.asp?sort=venid

And Conexant does make some PCI ethernet/modem combo chips, for example
(specifically mentioning Compaq Presario notebooks):
http://www.conexant.com/pressroom/releases/08292000-1.asp

Of course, that does not help you with your problem of getting the thing
to work with Linux, which unfortunately may be rather difficult.

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Post by nguyen.. » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:42:24


Me too. I recently got the 17XL2, it has a build in Modem and NIC
combo. They are Conexant indeed. I can't find anyone (vendor) using the
same Conenxant chip to make their NIC and of course I can't find any
driver anywhere. I wonder why Compaq choose to use this chip for their
NIC. How ever it works fine on Win98 and Win2000.





> > > I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own")
laptop.
>  It came
> > > with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100
> ethernet
> > > card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1),
> but it's
> > > not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during
> bootup or in
> > > dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

> > > Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor
> Unknown
> > > device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel.
Fast
> > > back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable.
> Latency=160.
> > > Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32
> bit memory
> > > at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

> > > I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
> > > conflicting information.

> > A suggestion: if your laptop also runs Windows, download and install
> Sandra
> > from http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra/.  This is a shareware
> > diagnostic suite.  Go to the "PCI and AGP buses information" module,
> and
> > you'll see a lot of information about your NIC, including "OEM
device
> name"
> > and "OEM hardware ID".  You might find some new information there.
I
> was
> > suprised to see that my SMC NIC is manufactured by Accton.

> > Good luck,
> > Andrew.

> Nifty little tool -- thanks for the tip.  It didn't provide any new
> information, though.  It said the OEM Device Name is "Conexant
Unknown",
> and the OEM Hardware ID is "FUN_0,VEN_14F1,DEV_1803".  It just
verifies
> that Compaq gave me misinformation.

> So, anyone else out there have a Conexant MiniPCI NIC?

>       Scott

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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Post by Scott Alft » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:35:25


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>I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop...

>Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown
>device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel.      Fast
>back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable. Latency=160.
>Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory
>at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

>I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
>conflicting information.

>I called Compaq technical support, and the guy I talked to said it was an
>Intel product...

If it was an Intel product, the vendor ID would be 8086 (unless this was a
product they acquired from somebody else).

Once upon a time, I saw a list of PCI vendor IDs someplace.  You might try
searching AltaVista for such a list.  Failing that, if this NIC is a PC Card
device (I think you said it was; I've already deleted the relevant part, or
I'd look it up again) and you end up getting nowhere with it, you might be
better off putting it back in the box and getting something that's known
to work.  If it was bundled with a Presario, it's probably nothing to write
home about anyway.

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Post by Steve Wolf » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:28:13


Quote:> I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.  It
came
> with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100 ethernet
> card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1), but it's
> not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during bootup or
in
> dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

> Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown
> device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel. Fast
> back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable. Latency=160.
> Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit
memory
> at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

> I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
> conflicting information.

> I called Compaq technical support, and the guy I talked to said it was an
> Intel product,

  Either he's wrong, or Compaq's done some serious screwing around with the
hardware.  Intel's vendor ID is 8086 (1F96).  I'm sorry that I don't have
more useful information.

steve

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Post by Steve Wolf » Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:30:56


Quote:> Me too. I recently got the 17XL2, it has a build in Modem and NIC
> combo. They are Conexant indeed. I can't find anyone (vendor) using the
> same Conenxant chip to make their NIC and of course I can't find any
> driver anywhere. I wonder why Compaq choose to use this chip for their
> NIC.

  I'll tell you exactly why - they were the cheapest at the time.

Steve

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Post by Duan » Wed, 13 Sep 2000 02:41:13



> > I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.  It
> came
> > with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100 ethernet
> > card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1), but it's
> > not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during bootup or
> in
> > dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

> > Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown
> > device (rev 8). Vendor id=14f1. Device id=1803. Medium devsel. Fast
> > back-to-back capable.  BIST capable.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable. Latency=160.
> > Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40. I/O at 0x1400 [0x1401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit
> memory
> > at 0xf4000000 [0xf4000000].

> > I cannot figure out exactly what this thing is because I'm getting
> > conflicting information.

> > I called Compaq technical support, and the guy I talked to said it was an
> > Intel product,

>   Either he's wrong, or Compaq's done some serious screwing around with the
> hardware.  Intel's vendor ID is 8086 (1F96).  I'm sorry that I don't have
> more useful information.

A very minor nitpick, of absolutely no importance :-) Intels vendor ID
is 8086 hex, so it is not equivalent to 1F96 (which as far as I know has
not been assigned).

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Post by Frank Sweets » Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:44:13



>I recently bought a Compaq Presario 17XL2 ("build your own") laptop.  It came
>with what they call a Compaq MiniPCI Combo 56k modem and 10/100 ethernet
>card.  I'm trying to get the NIC to work in Linux (Mandrake 7.1), but it's
>not recognized by the kernel.  There's no mention of it during bootup or in
>dmesg, and /proc/pci says:

Sounds like the 3com 3c556 combo.  The modem is a winmodem and is unsupported,
but the ethernet portion should be supported by the latest driver, either
kernel 2.2.17 or the standalone module from http://www.scyld.com/

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