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I feel offended...Red Hat instalation offers an option to install in
BRAZILIAN...this language doesn't exist. It's like calling AMERICAN to
ENGLISH.
Note: PORTUGUESE is the language spoken in Brazil and after English and
Spanish is the third European language in the world. I love Brazil but
I'm sorry people there still speak PORTUGUESE

Tony

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Quote:>Note: PORTUGUESE is the language spoken in Brazil and after English and
>Spanish is the third European language in the world.

That's strange.  Considering that French or English is used in all diplomatic
circles, I didn't know that Spanish and Portugese were second and third.

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= >Note: PORTUGUESE is the language spoken in Brazil and after English and
= >Spanish is the third European language in the world.

= That's strange.  Considering that French or English is used in all diplomatic
= circles, I didn't know that Spanish and Portugese were second and third.

I would've thought Chinese was 2nd and 3rd... Or even 1st and 2nd....
(On a purely population basis)

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= I feel offended...Red Hat instalation offers an option to install in
= BRAZILIAN...this language doesn't exist. It's like calling AMERICAN to
= ENGLISH.
= Note: PORTUGUESE is the language spoken in Brazil and after English and
= Spanish is the third European language in the world. I love Brazil but
= I'm sorry people there still speak PORTUGUESE

Are there any differences at all?
Spelling for example?
We have UK English and US English after all... And they can be very
different.

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Not strictly necessary, but refer to the wording of the original post. I
think that Chinese of some sort is in fact 1st.

chinese is not some monolithic language.  afaik chinese comes in
several flavors such as cantonese and mandarin which, while they share
the same written form, are mutually unintelligible in spoken form.

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= > = >Note: PORTUGUESE is the language spoken in Brazil and after English and
= > = >Spanish is the third European language in the world.
=  
= > I would've thought Chinese was 2nd and 3rd... Or even 1st and 2nd....
= > (On a purely population basis)
=  
= Not strictly necessary, but refer to the wording of the original post. I
= think that Chinese of some sort is in fact 1st.

Ooops. Missed the European bit...
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Most people don't consider Chinese a European language.

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One might also ask how Portuguese usage in Brazil differs from the
same usage in Europe.   I understand that  American Spanish is quite
different from any of the European Spanish dialects, at least as spoken.

My own experience after having studied  French in high school (USA) was
that I had no trouble communicating in France, but might just as well have
being speaking Martian when trying to communicate with French Canadians
or individuals from any of the former French colonies.

Quote:> I feel offended...Red Hat instalation offers an option to install in
> BRAZILIAN...this language doesn't exist. It's like calling AMERICAN to
> ENGLISH.
> Note: PORTUGUESE is the language spoken in Brazil and after English and
> Spanish is the third European language in the world. I love Brazil but
> I'm sorry people there still speak PORTUGUESE

It's OK to call the languages Brazilian and American, if you want to.
There are no sharp borders between dialects, variations and languages.
One can ask one self if not Portuguese is a formalized dialect of Spanish?
Actually, it was from the beginning.

Dutch emerged from the German, and French from common Latin.

All the indoeuropean languages come from one proto-indoeuropean language
which in Europe turned into three main branches, Romanic, Slavic and
Germanic. Those in turn branched out to the living languages of today.
Mixing, maturing, influencing each other.

The word for wagon is very similar in all these, the same goes for mother,
father brother, sister, sun, etc.

English is considered to be very mixed linguistically, a blend of Romanic
(Celtic, French, Latin) and Germanic components. Speaking with british
accent is no more correct than with the american. And contrary to popular
belief, british English is NOT "older" than american! Those two dialects are
of equal "age". This means in fact that it would be just as justified to
call the language American as English. Being a non-anglo I prefer the
american which is clearer and easier to hear and comprehend. It also appears
to lack much of the overemphasized social markings which seem to be an
important component of british speech.

American is in some aspects already a language of it's own, in the future
the deciders might decide that it will be called American as well?

This is normal, languages change and newer sprout from older.
Nothing to get upset about.

MG

PS. To all of you who replied about Chinese being first or second language,
note that the poster speaks of EUROPEAN languages in the world!

= call the language American as English. Being a non-anglo I prefer the
= american which is clearer and easier to hear and comprehend. It also appears
= to lack much of the overemphasized social markings which seem to be an
= important component of british speech.

What do you mean by "Overemphasised social markings"?

= PS. To all of you who replied about Chinese being first or second language,
= note that the poster speaks of EUROPEAN languages in the world!

*sigh*
I know, I know....

I already posted an "ooops".
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Quote:> > I would've thought Chinese was 2nd and 3rd... Or even 1st and 2nd....
> > (On a purely population basis)

> Most people don't consider Chinese a European language.

gee, i wonder why?

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hi,

hmm...

any statistics? i'd love to think Russian is third European language...

Quote:>  I love Brazil but
> I'm sorry people there still speak PORTUGUESE

> Tony

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OK

  Actually, us folks over here on the west side of the puddle speak
  "American English", while the blokes on the east shore speak
  "English English" (or "Standard English", or "The Queen's English").

  I believe our friends just south of Texas/New Mexico/Arizona have
  a similar situation:  "Mexican Spanish" vs. "Spanish Spanish".

  Same basic language, but "different".

  Question:  Is the Portuguese spoken in Brazil _identical_ to that
             spoken in Lisbon?   Or is this a case of "Portuguese
             Portuguese" vs. "Brazilian Portuguese"?   Same, but
             "different".

  Remember -- this is a _question_.  It is not a troll or flame.
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