ISA PnP Misery, RH 5.1-6.1

ISA PnP Misery, RH 5.1-6.1

Post by De Clar » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00



It started out simple.  I got DSL at home.  I built a little
Linux router out of used parts.  Then I wanted to put an
ethernet card in my old Linux tower/peripheral farm. "Old"
in this case means about 4 years old (and has never run
anything but Linux in its life :-)).

I put 2 PCI NE2000 clones in the router, which is an ATX
board with P2 233.  This worked fine, once I got past

PROBLEM 1:      driver loadable modules ne.o and ne2k-pci.o
                do not load.  cannot be insmod'd.

This is true under RH 5.1, 5.2, and 6.1 -- if you insmod -v
either of these drivers, you get undef syms and failure.
Why?

However, when I rebuilt the 5.2 kernel with this driver configured
in statically, it worked.  I could see the ne2ks and they worked.
So far so good, I could talk to my DSL provider.

The card for the older machine was an ISA ne2k clone.  This
was because the older machine is full of cards, no free slots.
The card I could most easily sacrifice was the modem card
(if you have DSL you don't need dialup, right?) which was ISA.

The cheap ISA ne2k clone card I got was a new kind of ISA, with
no dip switches!  ISA PnP, or so it claimed.  Of course there
was some floppy disk with WinDope configuration software on it,
but I'm a linux purist.  I don't permit the MicroSloth virus on
any machine I own.

PROBLEM 2:      new ISA cards software configurable only,
                requiring M$ software! what happened to DIP
                switches and real doco?

I cannot get 5.2 or 6.1 to see that ethernet card.  I've tried
scanport.  I've tried isapnptools.  isapnptools can see that
the card is there, and correctly id its vendor, model, etc.
It claims the card is at x0200 (len 32) irq 3.  I believe this
is in conflict with the default game port location.  scanport
says there is something at x0200, len 8 (ouch) that it thinks
is a game port.

Now, isapnptools (from my quick reading of the doco) can
set the addr and irq on the card, but the author says you
must use loadable drivers with it, so you can load the driver
AFTER configuring the card.  Since the loadable drivers
for en2k clones won't insmod, I can't do this.  Another
brick wall?

And I can't set the address on the card otherwise, without
going out and buying WinDope (fate worse than death!).

PROBLEM 3:      RH 6.1 doesn't help and in fact seems more
                broken than 5.2

I tried installing 6.1 to see if it would be any happier.
The result of installing 6.1 was that I still could not
see the ISA PnP enet card;  but, to make matters worse,
I could no longer see my parallel port card!  So now my
printer is gone as well!  6.1 also did not recognize my
No. 9 video card, but misidentified it as some 800x600 VGA
junk.  

Overall, 6.1 was not a happy experience -- have you ever
run Gnome on a P133 :-) ?  I will put it on the router
to get ipchains latest version, but I am not thrilled
with it for a sit-down workstation.  Ever noticed how
in the "graphical" install program, the mouse ptr
disappears near the end, on the screen where you make
the boot diskette?  Cute, RH.

Anyway, I am at wits' end what to do with this stupid
PnP ISA card.  Any clues, strategic suggestions, etc.
will be gratefully received.  At present I'm thinking of
bailing on the ISA card & putting a PCI card in the
tower (sacrificing a PCI slot ouch!), and restoring the
modem card (in case DSL gear fails :-)).

What a PITA.  I just wanted to connect an older linux box
to a standard 10bT home ethernet, and I've gone through hell
and high water trying to do it... building an entire
router from junk parts turned out to be a simpler project
than putting one card into an existing, perfectly functional
machine.

help... help...  in need of bright ideas

de

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ISA PnP Misery, RH 5.1-6.1

Post by Rob Cla » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00



[..]

Quote:>The cheap ISA ne2k clone card I got was a new kind of ISA, with
>no dip switches!  ISA PnP, or so it claimed.  Of course there
>was some floppy disk with WinDope configuration software on it,
>but I'm a linux purist.  I don't permit the MicroSloth virus on
>any machine I own.

Those jumperless ISA NE2000 clones usually have a DOS program to set the
address/IRQ in an EPROM.  Bite the bullet and boot from a DOS floppy, run
the setup program, and never worry about it again :)  Windows need not
enter the picture.


http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

 
 
 

ISA PnP Misery, RH 5.1-6.1

Post by De Clar » Sun, 12 Mar 2000 04:00:00




: [..]
: >The cheap ISA ne2k clone card I got was a new kind of ISA, with
: >no dip switches!  ISA PnP, or so it claimed.  Of course there
: >was some floppy disk with WinDope configuration software on it,
: >but I'm a linux purist.  I don't permit the MicroSloth virus on
: >any machine I own.

: Those jumperless ISA NE2000 clones usually have a DOS program to set the
: address/IRQ in an EPROM.  Bite the bullet and boot from a DOS floppy, run
: the setup program, and never worry about it again :)  Windows need not
: enter the picture.


: http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

Thanks Rob, but it turned out easier and cheaper to put a PCI
card in there ($10 used at local e-junk emporium).  End of
problem.  Instantly everything worked.  I like PCI :-)

de

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1. Creative ViBRA16C PnP & RH 5.1

Hi!

Here I am with my problems again:)
I have RH 5.1 And Creative ViBRA16C PnP, but...no sound:( I also have Zoom
Pnp Faxmodem in my comp.... so I desiced to do next:
In file /etc/isapnp.conf I unmarked the next options (exactly the same as
my working window's conf!):

# ANSI string -->33.6 Faxmodem PNP  <--
(CONFIGURE OZO8008/111485 (LD 0(IO 0 (BASE 0x03e8))(INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE
+E)))(ACT Y)))

# ANSI string -->Creative ViBRA16C PnP<--
(CONFIGURE CTL0070/-1 (LD 0(INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))(DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1))(DMA
1 (CHANNEL5))
(IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))(IO 1 (BASE 0x0330))(IO 2 (BASE 0x0388))(ACT Y)))

And in file /etc/conf.modules I have:

alias sound sb
options -k sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1,5
alias midi opl3
options -k opl3 io=0x388

And after that:

-----------------------------------------------
'dmesg' says:

Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
SB 4.13 detected OK (220)
Installed 0
YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft
1993-1996

-------------------------------------------------
'cat /dev/sndstat' shows:

Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630
Kernel: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.0.34 #1 Fri May 8 16:05:57 EDT 1998
i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:

Card config:

Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.13)

Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3

Midi devices:

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster

-------------------------------------------------
in file '/proc/ioports' there is line:

0220-022f : sound blaster

-------------------------------------------------
in file '/proc/interrupts' there is line:

 5:          2   sound blaster

--------------------------------------------------
in file /proc/dma there is:

 1: Sound Blaster8
 4: cascade
 5: Sound Blaster16

---------------------------------------------------------
But 'sndconfig' program can't find anything:(

Ok if I take Zoom's Faxmodem out then 'sndconfig' says
MODEL: Creative ViBRA16C PnP
and if I choose IO Port 0x220 IRQ 5 8-bit DMA 1 and 16-bit DMA 5
Testing... But I can't hear any sample sound...:( I also tried other DMA's
and IRQ's

OK I tested with 'mpg123' and the result is:


Junk at the beginning
Skipped RIFF header!
Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What else can I do ???
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