motherboard recommendations: stability?

motherboard recommendations: stability?

Post by Matt Garma » Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:10:26



I plan to do a system upgrade in the near future.  But I can't decide
on what motherboard to get.

My absolute main priority is stability.  To me, stability means that
the hardware is well-supported by Linux with mature, "battle-proven"
drivers.  :)

For AMD, it looks like nforce2 is the top performing chipset right
now, but the driver situation doesn't meet my requirements (and it
also looks like you can only use nvidia agp video cards, which I don't
have).  Then there's Via and SIS for AMD chipsets... it looks like
these tend to be problematic as well, judging by google's news
archives.

I don't know anything about Intel chipsets---are they any more stable?
I'd prefer to stick with AMD, but if it's a matter of having better,
more stable drivers, I'll switch.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Matt

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motherboard recommendations: stability?

Post by Frank Mil » Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:30:38




Quote:>I plan to do a system upgrade in the near future.  But I can't decide
>on what motherboard to get.

>My absolute main priority is stability.  To me, stability means that
>the hardware is well-supported by Linux with mature, "battle-proven"
>drivers.  :)

>For AMD, it looks like nforce2 is the top performing chipset right
>now, but the driver situation doesn't meet my requirements (and it
>also looks like you can only use nvidia agp video cards, which I don't
>have).  Then there's Via and SIS for AMD chipsets... it looks like
>these tend to be problematic as well, judging by google's news
>archives.

I've been running the Epox 8RDA with a Matrox AGP video card.  It
was a bit difficult to get X running properly, but have not experienced
any instability problems.  Part of my difficultly was running Debian
stable (initially) -- that is (or was at that time) too old to support
this relatively new board/chipset.  Debian testing is working fine...

        -frank
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motherboard recommendations: stability?

Post by Ron Gibs » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:27:54



Noted:

Quote:> I don't know anything about Intel chipsets---are they any more stable?
> I'd prefer to stick with AMD, but if it's a matter of having better,
> more stable drivers, I'll switch.

This is my opinion but after my last bout with SIS chipsets I'm in no
hurry to again battle that.  While supported under Linux well the mobo I
had everything conflicted with everything.

I got an Asus P4B533 with an Intel 845E chipset.  There is a gap in
support for that but the latest kernel should be fine with it.  I use
kernel 2.4.19 with Alan Cox's AC1 patch.  It is rock solid for me and
I've had the best time with Linux that I've had in the last 7 years.

For a change there is a plugin for almost everything for browsers, I
have several other apps I added and the present combo of the X and KDE
version I have I most likely won't change for quite a while.

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motherboard recommendations: stability?

Post by Stefan Patri » Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:10:25



Quote:> I plan to do a system upgrade in the near future.  But I can't
> decide on what motherboard to get.

> My absolute main priority is stability.  To me, stability means that
> the hardware is well-supported by Linux with mature, "battle-proven"
> drivers.  :)

> For AMD, it looks like nforce2 is the top performing chipset right
> now, but the driver situation doesn't meet my requirements (and it
> also looks like you can only use nvidia agp video cards, which I
> don't
> have).  Then there's Via and SIS for AMD chipsets... it looks like
> these tend to be problematic as well, judging by google's news
> archives.

> I don't know anything about Intel chipsets---are they any more
> stable? I'd prefer to stick with AMD, but if it's a matter of having
> better, more stable drivers, I'll switch.

> Any thoughts?

Generally, yes.  Stay away from "cutting edge" MBs and other
hardware. Try to pick a motherboard that's been around for a year.  
Also, check the Linux hardware compatibility sites.  Many of the
distros' web sites have their own compatibility lists as well.

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motherboard recommendations: stability?

Post by Stace » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:01:37




> Noted:

>> I don't know anything about Intel chipsets---are they any more stable?
>> I'd prefer to stick with AMD, but if it's a matter of having better,
>> more stable drivers, I'll switch.

> This is my opinion but after my last bout with SIS chipsets I'm in no
> hurry to again battle that.  While supported under Linux well the mobo I
> had everything conflicted with everything.

> I got an Asus P4B533 with an Intel 845E chipset.  There is a gap in
> support for that but the latest kernel should be fine with it.  I use
> kernel 2.4.19 with Alan Cox's AC1 patch.  It is rock solid for me and
> I've had the best time with Linux that I've had in the last 7 years.

> For a change there is a plugin for almost everything for browsers, I
> have several other apps I added and the present combo of the X and KDE
> version I have I most likely won't change for quite a while.

I'm using an 845G board with a nvidia card 4200/SB live and with Mandrake
9.1 everything works fine. With Nvidia's drivers even has dual monitor
support etc. I agree this is the best combo with linux I've had yet. I had
to wait while for this hardware to be supported but looks like it was worth
it.

As far as the OP, I'd recomend either an 845 or 850 chipset system.
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motherboard recommendations: stability?

Post by Ron Gibs » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:45:16



Quote:> > I got an Asus P4B533 with an Intel 845E chipset.  There is a gap in
> > support for that but the latest kernel should be fine with it.  I use
> > kernel 2.4.19 with Alan Cox's AC1 patch.  It is rock solid for me and
> > I've had the best time with Linux that I've had in the last 7 years.
> > For a change there is a plugin for almost everything for browsers, I
> > have several other apps I added and the present combo of the X and KDE
> > version I have I most likely won't change for quite a while.
> I'm using an 845G board with a nvidia card 4200/SB live and with Mandrake
> 9.1 everything works fine. With Nvidia's drivers even has dual monitor
> support etc. I agree this is the best combo with linux I've had yet. I had
> to wait while for this hardware to be supported but looks like it was worth
> it.

Boy this is the golden age for Linux for sure.  My first kernel was
1.2.13 :)

Linux has been playing catch up but now IMO, they have passed some of
the other OS's for my uses.  I love being able to open three occasions
of Mozilla in the morning to read the news, for example.  I put a hell
of a load on my slow V90 connection     by pre-loading articles I intend on
reading so there is no waiting for them to load.

Needless to say that usually results in a crash and burn under W98SE.
OS/2 can handle it but they lack useful browser plugins.

Then there are the complaints about lack of specialized software or
Desktop suites which are evaporating every day.  In fact I'm stunned at
the huge number of available apps now.

These days Linux is a joy to use and I love the fact that my Web Host
allows me to install and configure my own binaries as I see fit.  Again
from the Linux platform that is a piece of cake.  Nothing like Linux
talking to Linux, IMO.

But there is so much, seriously I haven't the time to cover nearly as
much as I'd like to.

Quote:> As far as the OP, I'd recommend either an 845 or 850 chipset system.

Intel is pretty good about putting the information out there needed to
develop chipset drivers, etc.  Between this motherboard, what Linux
offers, and all the other goodies I perhaps am using about 70% of the
capabilities of the hardware and operating system.

BTW, I would personally recommend the mobo I have.  It is extremely
versatile and if you like to over-clock and all that it's perfect.  I
never do but I tweak the settings in CMOS a bit.

All in all I've got the best combo I've had in years and Linux works
great with it all, even a ATI 8500LE video card, which is a beastie.

In ran that 3D mark thing and got like 9000 3D Marks at 1024x768 x 32
color.  Best I ever got with a GeForce 256 was about 2500 IIRC and that
was at 800x600 x 16.  The desktop under Linux is just gorgeous with
stunning color - The whites are as white as they can be.  JPEG's are
crystal clear.  So it performs as well under Linux as it does under M$
stuff for my purposes.

All in all this combo of OS's and hardware just has me in heaven and
I've been using it all for about 9 months since my last upgrade.

Bottom line - I couldn't be happier with the modern hardware and the
Linux OS right now. It's hard to make a bad choice almost.

I know the tradition has been open source with Linux but IMO, a few
commercial apps priced reasonably would take it right into the middle
of mainstream, IMO, with the potential to dominate it in terms of
quality.  M$ won't go away and the newbies still need a hand held start.
But for anyone willing to put a little extra effort in thew rewards
are huge.

Good times for Linux, very good times.

Oh to the OP, I too concur.  I think if you want great performance Intel
845 and 850 based mobos will be rock solid and present few headaches
across a wide variety of OS's and are well supported under Linux.