Tape drive for back-ups, RH 5.1

Tape drive for back-ups, RH 5.1

Post by Henrik Storn » Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:00:00




>Our hope is to find a drive that we could easily move from
>machine to machine -- external, and hopefully one that does
>not require each computer to have its own interface card.
>On the PCs, does that mean we need an IDE drive?  

AFAIK, IDE devices are internal-only. I've never seen a computer
with an external IDE connector.

Quote:>We don't want to have to buy each machine a SCSI card.

Why not ? Low-end SCSI controllers are pretty cheap nowadays -
you can get decent ones in the 30-50 $ range (e.g. the NCR810
based controllers).

And it would fit in very well with your wish for an easy-to-move
external device.

Quote:>We are interested in buying tape drives, because they seem
>inexpensive and are reasonably convenient.

Get a decent DAT tape drive. The QIC based drives are noisy,
slow and somewhat unreliable. DAT based backup devices are a bit
more expensive, but reliable - and IMHO that's what you want from
a backup device.

If DAT/SCSI is too expensive for you, I'm afraid you're stuck with
parallel-port devices. In that case you should look closely at
what devices are supported at all in Linux - the latest ftape
driver has some new parallel-port tape support, but I cannot
remember the URL. See comp.os.linux.announce, it was posted a few
days ago. But parallel-port devices are usually rather slow.

--
Henrik Storner  |  "testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good,
                |   if it boots up it is perfect."
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Tape drive for back-ups, RH 5.1

Post by Grant Guenth » Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:00:00




>>Our hope is to find a drive that we could easily move from
>>machine to machine -- external, and hopefully one that does
>>not require each computer to have its own interface card.
>>On the PCs, does that mean we need an IDE drive?  
>If DAT/SCSI is too expensive for you, I'm afraid you're stuck with
>parallel-port devices. In that case you should look closely at
>what devices are supported at all in Linux - the latest ftape
>driver has some new parallel-port tape support, but I cannot
>remember the URL. See comp.os.linux.announce, it was posted a few
>days ago. But parallel-port devices are usually rather slow.

There are two distinct parallel port solutions.  As you observe,
the latest version of ftape now supports the parallel port versions of
the "Ditto" family of tape drives.

Both 2.0.35 and recent 2.1 kernels, however, support the new breed of
parallel port ATAPI tape drives, like the HP 8GB device.  

Check out:

        http://www-math.math.rwth-aachen.de/~LBFM/claus/ftape
and
        http://www.torque.net/parport/paride.html

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Tape drive for back-ups, RH 5.1

Post by John McKow » Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:00:00


<warn>I've not tried this!</warn>. Try going to DirtCheapDrives
(http://www.dirtcheapdrives.com). They have an "adapter" that will allow you
to plug/unplug IDE devices. I don't think this is a "hot swap", I am pretty
sure you need to power off, remove or add device, then power up. Look under
"Brackets" for the "Smart Shuttle Removable Brackets" area. The site says
that it allows you swap IDE disks and/or tapes. Of course, you'd need to get
one bracket per machine. The list is $59.00 - one per machine. Then you'd
need the adapter for the IDE tape drive - $65.00 per tape drive (I'd guess
only one).

I don't work for Dirt Cheap Drives. But I've been looking at vendors for a
new external SCSI and they are on my list. I haven't purchased anything from
them either, so I don't know much about them. I do remember seeing their ads
in Computer Shopper for a *long* time - for whatever that's worth to you.

John McKown

 
 
 

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