36 pin vs. 72 pin memory performance

36 pin vs. 72 pin memory performance

Post by cmatt.. » Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:00:00



I'm about to upgrade my 486/dx2 66 from ISA to PCI bus motherboard.  I
have heard that boards that use 36 pin ram will slow performance since
they use a 32 bit memory controller instead of 64 bit.  However I
suspect this is pointless and that I might save the cost of trading in
my SIMS with no penalty since I will only be running a 486 on thsi
board becasue the 486 would not be able to make use of a 64 bit data
path anyway.

Any thoughts, comments or suggestions?

Thanks!
Chuck

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36 pin vs. 72 pin memory performance

Post by Stephen Knila » Sat, 12 Aug 1995 04:00:00



Quote:>I'm about to upgrade my 486/dx2 66 from ISA to PCI bus motherboard.  I
>have heard that boards that use 36 pin ram will slow performance since
>they use a 32 bit memory controller instead of 64 bit.  However I
>suspect this is pointless and that I might save the cost of trading in
>my SIMS with no penalty since I will only be running a 486 on thsi
>board becasue the 486 would not be able to make use of a 64 bit data
>path anyway.

>Any thoughts, comments or suggestions?

This is POPPYCOCK!  The 36 pin SIMMS are NOT 32bit!  That should be OBVIOUS
to ANYONE that knows about such things!  32 PINS data + 2pins for power leaves
only 2 pins for address(and that isn't even including the cas/ras, etc...)!
In other words, it is only good for 4BYTE memory!

The 36PIN SIMMS are 8 or 9(w/parity) bit memory, and are merely a packaging
device!  A 386sx
will typically require 2 banks(or 16 bits), and a 386DX or higher typically
requires 4(for 32 bits).  How it accesses the memory is the MBs job.

Go with what is the best for you.  The larger chips allow more memory in less
space.  The smaller ones allow a better distribution, and a better upgrade
path for the moment.

Hopefully, they STILL have the 4 or 8 way memory interleave.  Doing that with
8 SIMMS can allow you to APPROACH 8ns memory!  60ns memory accessed sequentially
on a 8 way interleave will actually be 7.5ns!  Of course, any deviation from
truly sequential access will degrade performance by neccesitating wait states.

Steve

 
 
 

36 pin vs. 72 pin memory performance

Post by Leonard N. Zubkof » Sat, 12 Aug 1995 04:00:00


  [snip snip]

  Hopefully, they STILL have the 4 or 8 way memory interleave.  Doing that
  with 8 SIMMS can allow you to APPROACH 8ns memory!  60ns memory accessed
  sequentially on a 8 way interleave will actually be 7.5ns!  Of course,
  any deviation from truly sequential access will degrade performance by
  neccesitating wait states.

I'd love to find a motherboard that supports 4 or 8 way memory
interleaving, but I think that's exceedingly unlikely in the PC world.
Even 2 way interleaving isn't that easy to find...

                Leonard

 
 
 

1. 30 pin sim to 72 pin sim adaptors

I am interested in using one of these adaptors in my system. There seem
to be 2 types:

     type A:    4 - 30 pin simm sockets that connect directly to 72 pin connector

     type B:    4 - 30 pin simm sockets with buffer chips between them and the
                72 pin connector.

The buffers are there to prevent excessive loading of the motherboard
signals (address, we, cas, ras, etc). This seems to be desirable, but
how much delay would this cause in signals getting to the memory, and
would I have to downgrade the speed of the memory (add wait states) to
compensate?

The type B adaptor is only $5 more.

Thanks,

     Dave

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