K5 and kernel compile

K5 and kernel compile

Post by Chri » Wed, 14 May 1997 04:00:00



I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
favorable posts about it.  I find most people are fine with it as long
as they don't recompile a kernel.  I occasionaly see people talking
about 6.5 minute compile times with them, but with what mb?

TIA

Chris

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K5 and kernel compile

Post by Donovan Read » Wed, 14 May 1997 04:00:00



> I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
> favorable posts about it.  I find most people are fine with it as long
> as they don't recompile a kernel.  I occasionaly see people talking
> about 6.5 minute compile times with them, but with what mb?

> TIA

<snipped>

I have no problems with the K5 under linux on an Asus mainboard. Kernel
compile times run in that range, with no errors. I haven't got a K5 in
front of me right now to give an exact answer, but 6m30s sounds right.

Some of the different numbers probably have a lot to do with the disk
subsystem, too.

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Lindsay Computer Systems
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K5 and kernel compile

Post by Carlos Wexl » Wed, 14 May 1997 04:00:00


Amptron 9000 motherboard, 512k cache, 16MB EDO RAM, AMD K5 PR133, Seagate
EIDE HD:

Kernel compile takes about 6 minutes. Can't remember the exact figure...
but it was somewhat faster than a comparable pentium 133. Floating point
intensive apps. run a bit faster than a pentium 100.

No problems with it whatsoever. Paid $85 for the chip a month ago...

Carlos




>> I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
>> favorable posts about it.  I find most people are fine with it as long
>> as they don't recompile a kernel.  I occasionaly see people talking
>> about 6.5 minute compile times with them, but with what mb?

>> TIA
><snipped>

>I have no problems with the K5 under linux on an Asus mainboard. Kernel
>compile times run in that range, with no errors. I haven't got a K5 in
>front of me right now to give an exact answer, but 6m30s sounds right.

>Some of the different numbers probably have a lot to do with the disk
>subsystem, too.

>Donovan Ready,
>Lindsay Computer Systems
>http://www.jumpnet.com/~lcs

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K5 and kernel compile

Post by david parso » Wed, 14 May 1997 04:00:00




>I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
>favorable posts about it.

    People don't usually post about the favorable experiences they have
    with software and hardware.

    But as far as my experience goes, the AMD K5 is superior in every
    way to a similarly clocked Intel 80502.

                  ____

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K5 and kernel compile

Post by Mark Ha » Thu, 15 May 1997 04:00:00


: >I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
: >favorable posts about it.

I certainly posted positively some time ago.  the K5 is completely
problem-free, and fully P5-compatible, even on esoteric features
like 4M pages, RDTSC, etc.

kernel compile times vary widely depending on what .config you choose.
for mine, a P5/133 did a make in 7.5 minutes, 7.0 minutes with a K5/133.
identical hardware, which was a Supermicro STE/512, 32M EDO, 3G WD EIDE
using busmastering.  kernel 2.0.20 or so.

I have to admit I'm jaded by my current dual P6/200 though ;)

:     But as far as my experience goes, the AMD K5 is superior in every
:     way to a similarly clocked Intel 80502.

it's _definitely_ not in FP performance.  there it's up to 40% slower.
and that's not on P5-scheduled Quake or some asinine magazine benchmark...

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K5 and kernel compile

Post by david parso » Fri, 16 May 1997 04:00:00




>: >I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
>: >favorable posts about it.

>I certainly posted positively some time ago.  the K5 is completely
>problem-free, and fully P5-compatible, even on esoteric features
>like 4M pages, RDTSC, etc.

>kernel compile times vary widely depending on what .config you choose.
>for mine, a P5/133 did a make in 7.5 minutes, 7.0 minutes with a K5/133.
>identical hardware, which was a Supermicro STE/512, 32M EDO, 3G WD EIDE
>using busmastering.  kernel 2.0.20 or so.

>I have to admit I'm jaded by my current dual P6/200 though ;)

>:     But as far as my experience goes, the AMD K5 is superior in every
>:     way to a similarly clocked Intel 80502.

>it's _definitely_ not in FP performance.  there it's up to 40% slower.
>and that's not on P5-scheduled Quake or some asinine magazine benchmark...

   I think this depends on which model of K5 you get.  Apparently the
   newer ones cheat on their advertised speed; the K5PR133 runs at
   either 100 or 110mhz internally.  The earlier K5s (75,90,100)
   actually ran at the advertised clock speed and would, in my warhorse
   test of doing quantum chemistry modelling, complete the task about 5%
   faster than the similar Intel product.

   I think AMD made a mistake when they started ignoring the clockspeed
   in favor of this bogus pentium rating.  Though I suppose that 90% of
   the target market won't care much about the speed of floating point
   and will be more impressed to see K5/PR133 instead of K5/110 labelled
   on the chip.

                 ____

                  \/

 
 
 

K5 and kernel compile

Post by Donovan Read » Sat, 17 May 1997 04:00:00





> >: >I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
> >: >favorable posts about it.

> >I certainly posted positively some time ago.  the K5 is completely
> >problem-free, and fully P5-compatible, even on esoteric features
> >like 4M pages, RDTSC, etc.

some snipped.

Quote:>    I think this depends on which model of K5 you get.  Apparently the
>    newer ones cheat on their advertised speed; the K5PR133 runs at
>    either 100 or 110mhz internally.  The earlier K5s (75,90,100)
>    actually ran at the advertised clock speed and would, in my warhorse
>    test of doing quantum chemistry modelling, complete the task about 5%
>    faster than the similar Intel product.

>    I think AMD made a mistake when they started ignoring the clockspeed
>    in favor of this bogus pentium rating.  Though I suppose that 90% of
>    the target market won't care much about the speed of floating point
>    and will be more impressed to see K5/PR133 instead of K5/110 labelled
>    on the chip.

>    david parsons

We have found that the K5-PR133 chip runs at 117.5Mhz, and an IBMer near
us has code that shows it at 120. An OS/2 box with an Asus mainboard
here had an Intel 133 in it that we replaced with the K5. Bootup time is
_noticeably_ quicker.

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K5 and kernel compile

Post by Scott Ellswor » Fri, 23 May 1997 04:00:00



>I have been goin over a bunch of old posts, and have found very little
>favorable posts about it.  I find most people are fine with it as long
>as they don't recompile a kernel.  I occasionaly see people talking
>about 6.5 minute compile times with them, but with what mb?

I have been reasonably happy with the K5100 I am using.  I did find a strange
behavior - if I compiled a kernel with anything higher than a 386 processor
type, a boot with that kernel would not compile anything else.  As long as I
left the processor type alone, things worked just fine.

I have been told by a number of people with K5100s that they had similar
experiences, and by a number of people with K5133s that they did not have this
problem, so I would spend the extra 10-20$ and go for a 133, or perhaps a K6.

Nice and zippy, I must admit, and half the price of an intel product at the
time I bought.

Scott


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K5 and kernel compile

Post by Paul Schmid » Sun, 25 May 1997 04:00:00



: I have been reasonably happy with the K5100 I am using.  I did find a strange
: behavior - if I compiled a kernel with anything higher than a 386 processor
: type, a boot with that kernel would not compile anything else.  As long as I
: left the processor type alone, things worked just fine.

: I have been told by a number of people with K5100s that they had similar
: experiences, and by a number of people with K5133s that they did not

I'm running 2.0.30 (with pre-31 patches), compiled for 586, compiled
on this system, which is a K5-133, 32MB RAM.  It's a nice change from
my old system (386/25, 8M, no 387).  Frankly, it doesn't make any
difference to me what they call it -- the digital display on the front
of my old tower case only has two digits!
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