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I have a gateway G6-450 (Pentium II), running a red-hat 5.2
Kernel is 2.0.36.

On the motherboard, there is an integrated sound card, soundBlaster
16 compatible, based on an ES 1371 chipset.

The only option on the setup, regarding the sound card, is
a switch  : Enable/disable... So I guess this sound parameters are PnP ?

I have only one OS on the hard drive (no way to boot under DOS or W**)
I have try to compile the kernel with soundcard support, but that doesn't
worked. I have try the usual I/O=0x220, IRQ=5, DMA=1/5...
also try I/O=0x240 ...  (for the 100% sound blaster compatibles)

The card is still not recognize (cat /dev/sndstat : no card found...)

Does someone know how to tune the system to be able to compile this sound
card ???

Thanks,

-Franck

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Hi,

: I have a gateway G6-450 (Pentium II), running a red-hat 5.2
: Kernel is 2.0.36.

: On the motherboard, there is an integrated sound card, soundBlaster
: 16 compatible, based on an ES 1371 chipset.

: The only option on the setup, regarding the sound card, is
: a switch  : Enable/disable... So I guess this sound parameters are PnP ?

The 1371 is also used on one of the SB64PCI variations and is probably
connected to the PCI bus, check /proc/pci. So it's  "PCI-PnP".

: I have only one OS on the hard drive (no way to boot under DOS or W**)
: I have try to compile the kernel with soundcard support, but that doesn't
: worked. I have try the usual I/O=0x220, IRQ=5, DMA=1/5...
: also try I/O=0x240 ...  (for the 100% sound blaster compatibles)

The chip isn't supported in the 2.0 kernel series but recent kernels
(2.2 series) have support for the ESS 1370/1371 chipset.

regards,
        Michael
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The should not be ESS chips, but ES (ensoniq Sound), ess is another
company.  Ensoniq was bought out by creative about a year and a half
ago.  The AudioPCI (ES1370 and 1371) is a very good card.  Get the
2.2.5 kernel, compile it, and it runs great.

                Harry

Why do you think it's very good? Honest question - I'm curious.

My experience with the AudioPCI (a.k.a. SoundBlaster PCI) card
was a bit mixed: it doesn't have an amplifier on-board, so you
can't connect passive speakers to it. This sets it apart from
other (orig. Creative) SoundBlaster cards. In fact, the Creative
passive speakers (SBS10) claim to work well with all SB cards,
but they don't with the SB PCI.

Also, the card doesn't support the ul format directly. That
means you can't drop .au files onto the /dev/dsp or /dev/audio
devices. Some apps depend on that. You have to use something
like sox in between to convert into ub format.

I've only tried the driver that comes with RH5.2 so far, are
there changes in the 2.2.x drivers?

Quote:>>The chip isn't supported in the 2.0 kernel series but recent kernels
>>(2.2 series) have support for the ESS 1370/1371 chipset.

The 2.0.36 kernel as shipped with RH5.2 has es1370 and es1371
drivers.

Cheers
Steffen.

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Take a look at http://www.ife.ee.ethz.ch/~sailer/linux/. The 2.0.34
patch mentioned there
(ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/alan/Sound/2.0.34-modular-3.patch.gz)
worked for me to get my SoundBlaster 64PCI working, which is based on
the same chip. I'm running 2.0.35, though.

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Thanks for all your answers.
I just install kernel 2.2.5, choose the ES1371 in the sound card pannel,
and everything works fine.

-Franck

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draken:~> copy swedish.au /dev/audio
Works fine for me.

Quote:> I've only tried the driver that comes with RH5.2 so far, are
> there changes in the 2.2.x drivers?

draken:~> cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.3.0-pre3 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux draken 2.0.33 #5 Sat Feb 6 18:38:56 MET 1999 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1371 at 0xe000, irq 12

Audio devices:
0: ES1371 DAC2/ADC

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices:
0: ES1371

Timers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Mixers:
0: AC97 generic

  WARNING!!! The /dev/sndstat device is obsolete. Support for this
device may
  be REMOVED in the future!!! Better information about ALSA driver is
available
  in the /proc/asound directory.

The ALSO drivers work fine for me, for more info about ALSA see
http://alsa.jcu.cz

regards Henrik

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Quote:>draken:~> cat /dev/sndstat
>Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.3.0-pre3 emulation code)
>Kernel: Linux draken 2.0.33 #5 Sat Feb 6 18:38:56 MET 1999 i686
>Config options: 0
>[...]
>Installed drivers:
>Type 10: ALSA emulation
>[...]
>Card config:
>Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1371 at 0xe000, irq 12
>[...]
>The ALSO drivers work fine for me, for more info about ALSA see
>http://alsa.jcu.cz

Very interesting. Thanks for the info. After I found the
es1371 driver in /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound it didn't
occur to me to look any further...

Unfortunately, I shipped the boxes already so I can't play
around with the cards anymore. Maybe next time... ;-)

Cheers
Steffen.

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I can't imagine wanting to actually use the amplifier in a SB
card.  The things are staticky enough at line level.  And
even $20 powered speakers have better amps.

Quote:>Also, the card doesn't support the ul format directly. That
>means you can't drop .au files onto the /dev/dsp or /dev/audio
>devices. Some apps depend on that. You have to use something
>like sox in between to convert into ub format.

That is a definite drawback.

Still, I consider the ~$30 I spent on an OEM Creative Ensoniq
Soundblaster AudioPCI (or whatever it was called that month)
to be a great deal.  The thing has pretty clean digital audio,
unlike all previous Creative cards.  It has a decent default
MIDI patch set, unlike all previous Creative cards.  You get
the idea that someone other than Creative designed it.  :->

The only complaint I have is occasional sound outages during
Heroes of Might and Magic 3, and I can't say for sure that
they're the card's fault rather than the game's or general
Windows / DirectX problems.  (I guess I should swap in an old
SB16 or SBPro and see if that fixes things.)

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The card has good sound quality, no doubt. I ran mine under Windoze before
installing linux. But the huge amount of stuff that needs to be done, and
the disk space it takes, to get it to run MIDI is ridiculous.

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Not really, It's like an AGP-lite implimentation.  Most sound cards
(good ones) had 1MB of memory (one form or another, usualy eprom) to
hold the midi set, Ensoniq decided to use system ram.  The PCI bus
provided enough bandwidth that doing this would be light years away
from effecting PCI/sound performance.  Also it gives you the ability
to upgrade and enlarge the patch set.  I even have an 8MB patch set,
if anyone wants it.  Ensoniq had it up for a few weeks, but the
bandwidth useage of people DLing was killing them, so they had to take
it off.

                Harry