Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Clive Dov » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:39:25



I am considering the purchase of a new computer to replace a pentium 120
machine.

The machine I am considerig has a video card in the AGP slot, described by
the seller's literatures as follows:
ASUS GEFORCE 2MX 32MB TV-OUT VIDEO CARD

The sound card is on the motherboard and is described by the seller as an
AC97.

I am used to machines where the preipheral cards were all in pci or isa
slots.

Am I likely to have a problem driving these cards under Linux mandrake 8.1?

 
 
 

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Robert M. Taylor, Jr » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:42:39


This indicates that the sound uses an integrated chipset. These are not
simple to use and are not yet directly supported by any distribution. Even
a SB16 PCI would be a better bet and these are cheap right now. GForce
cards mostly work fine out of the box.

> I am considering the purchase of a new computer to replace a pentium 120
> machine.

> The machine I am considerig has a video card in the AGP slot, described by
> the seller's literatures as follows:
> ASUS GEFORCE 2MX 32MB TV-OUT VIDEO CARD

> The sound card is on the motherboard and is described by the seller as an
> AC97.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Not Good!

> I am used to machines where the preipheral cards were all in pci or isa
> slots.

> Am I likely to have a problem driving these cards under Linux mandrake
> 8.1?


 
 
 

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Roland Krus » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:36:21



> This indicates that the sound uses an integrated chipset. These are not
> simple to use and are not yet directly supported by any distribution.

I beg to differ. I have VIA AC97 integrated sound on my mainboard, it
works just fine out of the box with RedHat 7.2. I expect the situation
will be the same with Mandrake.

[it even worked with RH 6.2 with the latest RH kernel upgrade
(2.2.19-something) and a little help (manually editing "alias
sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio" into /etc/modules.conf, I think)].

This may not be true for all chipsets, though. You should check what
kind of chipset the mainboard uses.

 > Even
 > a SB16 PCI would be a better bet and these are cheap right now.

It is hard to come across mainboards without integrated sound these days.

If you can't make it work, or want to use a separate soundcard,
integrated sound can be disabled in BIOS setup.

Quote:> GForce
> cards mostly work fine out of the box.

Agreed.

--
Roland Kruse


>>I am considering the purchase of a new computer to replace a pentium 120
>>machine.

>>The machine I am considerig has a video card in the AGP slot, described by
>>the seller's literatures as follows:
>>ASUS GEFORCE 2MX 32MB TV-OUT VIDEO CARD

>>The sound card is on the motherboard and is described by the seller as an
>>AC97.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Not Good!

>>I am used to machines where the preipheral cards were all in pci or isa
>>slots.

>>Am I likely to have a problem driving these cards under Linux mandrake
>>8.1?

 
 
 

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Clive Dov » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:36:31


Thank you. I was expecting to have to replace the sound system with a pci
sound card.  On my pentium 20 machinces, I am running Soundblaster isapnp
cards and am content with them except for some hesitation playing some midi.

Here is what is available as options from the seller of the machine, as
cpied from his web page.

SOUNDBLASTER LIVE VALUE DIGITAL         $42
SOUNDBLASTER LIVE VALUE DIGITAL 5.1     $49
SOUNDBLASTER XGAMER 5.1                 $113
SOUNDBLASTER LIVE MP3 + 5.1             $113
SOUNDBLASTER LIVE PLAT 5.1              $215
BESTEK X-ERA SOUND LIVE                 $25

The prices are for boxed cards. I assume that the price for OEM cards
purchased with the machine will not be very different.

Of course, the seller doesn't support linux so any card that I specify will
be at my onus as to the availability of sound modules.


> This indicates that the sound uses an integrated chipset. These are not
> simple to use and are not yet directly supported by any distribution. Even
> a SB16 PCI would be a better bet and these are cheap right now. GForce
> cards mostly work fine out of the box.

>> I am considering the purchase of a new computer to replace a pentium 120
>> machine.

>> The machine I am considerig has a video card in the AGP slot, described
>> by the seller's literatures as follows:
>> ASUS GEFORCE 2MX 32MB TV-OUT VIDEO CARD

>> The sound card is on the motherboard and is described by the seller as an
>> AC97.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Not Good!

>> I am used to machines where the preipheral cards were all in pci or isa
>> slots.

>> Am I likely to have a problem driving these cards under Linux mandrake
>> 8.1?

?
?
 
 
 

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Clive Dov » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:57:04




>> This indicates that the sound uses an integrated chipset. These are not
>> simple to use and are not yet directly supported by any distribution.

> I beg to differ. I have VIA AC97 integrated sound on my mainboard, it
> works just fine out of the box with RedHat 7.2. I expect the situation
> will be the same with Mandrake.

> [it even worked with RH 6.2 with the latest RH kernel upgrade
> (2.2.19-something) and a little help (manually editing "alias
> sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio" into /etc/modules.conf, I think)].

> This may not be true for all chipsets, though. You should check what
> kind of chipset the mainboard uses.

>  > Even
>  > a SB16 PCI would be a better bet and these are cheap right now.

> It is hard to come across mainboards without integrated sound these days.

> If you can't make it work, or want to use a separate soundcard,
> integrated sound can be disabled in BIOS setup.

>> GForce
>> cards mostly work fine out of the box.

> Agreed.

Thank you.

It looks like this machine will work for me as it stands, with the caveat
that if sound configuration is too much of nuisance, I can simply disable
the integrated sound system and go buy a Soundblaster card.  The question
will then be which Soundblaster card as there seems to be a selection.

The system also comes with a winmodem, but he is only willing to subtract
$8.00 if I leave it out (which sounds just about what those pieces of junk
are worth) so I will probably leave it in and if it does not work with a
linmodem driver I can move a USRobotics hardware modem from another box and
give the winmodem to my XYL or son.  I only use the modem for fax traffic.

 
 
 

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Robert M. Taylor, Jr » Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:59:08



> Thank you. I was expecting to have to replace the sound system with a pci
> sound card.  On my pentium 20 machinces, I am running Soundblaster isapnp
> cards and am content with them except for some hesitation playing some
> midi.

> Here is what is available as options from the seller of the machine, as
> cpied from his web page.

> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE VALUE DIGITAL         $42
> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE VALUE DIGITAL 5.1     $49
> SOUNDBLASTER XGAMER 5.1                 $113
> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE MP3 + 5.1             $113
> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE PLAT 5.1              $215
> BESTEK X-ERA SOUND LIVE                 $25

> The prices are for boxed cards. I assume that the price for OEM cards
> purchased with the machine will not be very different.

> Of course, the seller doesn't support linux so any card that I specify
> will be at my onus as to the availability of sound modules.


> > This indicates that the sound uses an integrated chipset. These are not
> > simple to use and are not yet directly supported by any distribution.
> > Even a SB16 PCI would be a better bet and these are cheap right now.
> > GForce cards mostly work fine out of the box.

> >> I am considering the purchase of a new computer to replace a pentium
> >> 120 machine.

> >> The machine I am considerig has a video card in the AGP slot, described
> >> by the seller's literatures as follows:
> >> ASUS GEFORCE 2MX 32MB TV-OUT VIDEO CARD

> >> The sound card is on the motherboard and is described by the seller as
> >> an AC97.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Not Good!

> >> I am used to machines where the preipheral cards were all in pci or isa
> >> slots.

> >> Am I likely to have a problem driving these cards under Linux mandrake
> >> 8.1?

Note that Pricewatch shows SB PCI 16 models for about 20. The Bestek card I
am not familiar with. The Esoniq cards work fine even with my old
distribution. Via chipset built-in sound should work so sve the money until
you get an Idea if the thing works as is. You can spend the money later if
need be.
 
 
 

Driver question, video & sound. new computer

Post by Clive Dov » Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:11:22




>> Thank you. I was expecting to have to replace the sound system with a pci
>> sound card.  On my pentium 20 machinces, I am running Soundblaster isapnp
>> cards and am content with them except for some hesitation playing some
>> midi.

>> Here is what is available as options from the seller of the machine, as
>> cpied from his web page.

>> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE VALUE DIGITAL         $42
>> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE VALUE DIGITAL 5.1     $49
>> SOUNDBLASTER XGAMER 5.1                 $113
>> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE MP3 + 5.1             $113
>> SOUNDBLASTER LIVE PLAT 5.1              $215
>> BESTEK X-ERA SOUND LIVE                 $25

>> The prices are for boxed cards. I assume that the price for OEM cards
>> purchased with the machine will not be very different.

>> Of course, the seller doesn't support linux so any card that I specify
>> will be at my onus as to the availability of sound modules.


>> > This indicates that the sound uses an integrated chipset. These are not
>> > simple to use and are not yet directly supported by any distribution.
>> > Even a SB16 PCI would be a better bet and these are cheap right now.
>> > GForce cards mostly work fine out of the box.

>> >> I am considering the purchase of a new computer to replace a pentium
>> >> 120 machine.

>> >> The machine I am considerig has a video card in the AGP slot,
>> >> described by the seller's literatures as follows:
>> >> ASUS GEFORCE 2MX 32MB TV-OUT VIDEO CARD

>> >> The sound card is on the motherboard and is described by the seller as
>> >> an AC97.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Not Good!

>> >> I am used to machines where the preipheral cards were all in pci or
>> >> isa slots.

>> >> Am I likely to have a problem driving these cards under Linux mandrake
>> >> 8.1?

> Note that Pricewatch shows SB PCI 16 models for about 20. The Bestek card
> I am not familiar with. The Esoniq cards work fine even with my old
> distribution. Via chipset built-in sound should work so sve the money
> until you get an Idea if the thing works as is. You can spend the money
> later if need be.

Agreed.

I will try out the onboard sound.

I have gotten a commitment to hold on the price of a soundblaster at $49.00
(installed) until I have had an opportunity to study the box, install linux
and test the onboard sound system.

I also got a committment to swap the graphics card for one of equivalent
value if it does not work.

Thank you.

 
 
 

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