NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Mike Coakle » Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:00:00



I am having trouble installing a RedHat 6.0 installation onto a Compaq
Proliant 4000 with the NCR53C710 controller. The installation simply cannot
find the controller and cannot continue without it. (I know I shouldn't be
saying this...) I can install MS WinNT without any problems and the
controller is recognized and the system boots off of this controller/HD.
Does anyone out there have any ideas?

Mike

 
 
 

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Johan Kullsta » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00



> I am having trouble installing a RedHat 6.0 installation onto a Compaq
> Proliant 4000 with the NCR53C710 controller. The installation simply cannot
> find the controller and cannot continue without it. (I know I shouldn't be
> saying this...) I can install MS WinNT without any problems and the
> controller is recognized and the system boots off of this controller/HD.
> Does anyone out there have any ideas?

did you try `expert mode'?  you can load specific modules to the
kernel used during installation.  not having used your particular scsi
adapter, i think `53c7,8xx.o' would be the proper module to load.

fwiw here are the scsi modules for redhat's 2.2.5-15 kernel installation

53c7,8xx.o    aha1542.o   eata_pio.o   initio.o     qlogicfc.o    tmscsim.o
AM53C974.o    aha1740.o   fdomain.o    megaraid.o   qlogicisp.o   u14-34f.o
BusLogic.o    aic7xxx.o   g_NCR5380.o  ncr53c8xx.o  scsi_debug.o  ultrastor.o
NCR53c406a.o  atp870u.o   gdth.o       pas16.o      seagate.o     wd7000.o
a100u2w.o     dtc.o       ide-scsi.o   ppa.o        sg.o
advansys.o    eata.o      imm.o        psi240i.o    sym53c416.o
aha152x.o     eata_dma.o  in2000.o     qlogicfas.o  t128.o

if `53c7,8xx' doesn't work, try some of the likelier ones.

hope this helps.

--
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NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Mike Coakle » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Johan,

Thanks for the response. I have gone through expert mode and made sure that
the 53c7,8xx.o module is the one loading. (Using ALT-F3 and ALT-F4 give you
a wealth of information during installation.) Is there some generic SCSI
module that I can try. (I think I have tried all of the available modules
though.)

What I would also like to know is if any know who or how I can find out who
wrote this module and how to contact them. The author is the authoritative
knowledge and I figure if he/she can't figure it out no one can.

Mike

 
 
 

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by phd.. » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00


There was some traffic a few months ago about this controller. I have
one on my Compaq 486 and use an adaptec controller to boot linux. As
near as I can tell this controller IS NOT SUPPORTED! Period.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

cheers,

db

On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:49:44 -0400, "Mike Coakley"


>Johan,

>Thanks for the response. I have gone through expert mode and made sure that
>the 53c7,8xx.o module is the one loading. (Using ALT-F3 and ALT-F4 give you
>a wealth of information during installation.) Is there some generic SCSI
>module that I can try. (I think I have tried all of the available modules
>though.)

>What I would also like to know is if any know who or how I can find out who
>wrote this module and how to contact them. The author is the authoritative
>knowledge and I figure if he/she can't figure it out no one can.

>Mike

 
 
 

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Richard Bum » Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:00:00



>Johan,
>Thanks for the response. I have gone through expert mode and made sure that
>the 53c7,8xx.o module is the one loading. (Using ALT-F3 and ALT-F4 give you
>a wealth of information during installation.) Is there some generic SCSI
>module that I can try. (I think I have tried all of the available modules
>though.)
>What I would also like to know is if any know who or how I can find out who
>wrote this module and how to contact them. The author is the authoritative
>knowledge and I figure if he/she can't figure it out no one can.
>Mike

Linux is open source.  You have the source code for the kernel,
including the driver you are interested in.  Every system include
these sources to allow a customized kernel to be compiled.  The code
itself may not be useful unless you have more information about the
card than is usually provided to end-users, but there should also
be comments indicating the development history and identifying the
authors.
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Post by bill davids » Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:00:00



| Thanks for the response. I have gone through expert mode and made sure that
| the 53c7,8xx.o module is the one loading. (Using ALT-F3 and ALT-F4 give you
| a wealth of information during installation.) Is there some generic SCSI
| module that I can try. (I think I have tried all of the available modules
| though.)

I would try ncr53c8xx before going into panic mode. Also note that most
computer shows will provide you with a supported controller for <$50,
either a generic NCR (if PCI) or a AHA154x if ISA.

Sometimes it's not worth the effort to fight getting a checp card to
work.

--

  The Internet is not the fountain of youth, but some days it feels like
the fountain of immaturity.

 
 
 

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Johan Kullsta » Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:00:00





> | Thanks for the response. I have gone through expert mode and made sure that
> | the 53c7,8xx.o module is the one loading. (Using ALT-F3 and ALT-F4 give you
> | a wealth of information during installation.) Is there some generic SCSI
> | module that I can try. (I think I have tried all of the available modules
> | though.)

> I would try ncr53c8xx before going into panic mode. Also note that most
> computer shows will provide you with a supported controller for <$50,
> either a generic NCR (if PCI) or a AHA154x if ISA.

they will?  all the computer shows i've been to have never heard
anything non-adaptec when it comes to scsi adapter cards.

Quote:> Sometimes it's not worth the effort to fight getting a checp card to
> work.

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NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Philip Bro » Sun, 18 Jul 1999 04:00:00




>> ...
>> I would try ncr53c8xx before going into panic mode. Also note that most
>> computer shows will provide you with a supported controller for <$50,
>> either a generic NCR (if PCI) or a AHA154x if ISA.

>they will?  all the computer shows i've been to have never heard
>anything non-adaptec when it comes to scsi adapter cards.

yeah, and major online places too. HOWEVER.
A nice person on the solaris newsgroup pointed out that

http://www.centrix-intl.com/

sells 8751Sp cards really cheap.
Damn. in fact, they just went DOWN from a month ago when I bought one :-/
$65

This gets you an adaptorwith both 50 and 68-pin connectors. Although the
"external" connecting is only 68pin, if you care about that.

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NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by bill davids » Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:00:00





| > I would try ncr53c8xx before going into panic mode. Also note that most
| > computer shows will provide you with a supported controller for <$50,
| > either a generic NCR (if PCI) or a AHA154x if ISA.
|
| they will?  all the computer shows i've been to have never heard
| anything non-adaptec when it comes to scsi adapter cards.

Well, around Albany NY, DC, and NYC they will. Online places certainly
have adaptors for cheap. YMMV.

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the fountain of immaturity.

 
 
 

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Robert M. Stockman » Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:00:00



> I am having trouble installing a RedHat 6.0 installation onto a Compaq
> Proliant 4000 with the NCR53C710 controller. The installation simply cannot
> find the controller and cannot continue without it. (I know I shouldn't be
> saying this...) I can install MS WinNT without any problems and the
> controller is recognized and the system boots off of this controller/HD.
> Does anyone out there have any ideas?

Have a look here :

http://www.sleepie.demon.co.uk/ncr53c710/index.html

This is an experimental driver, but works OK on my EISA ncr710.
The machine is a Compaq Prosignia (old EISA iron ;)

Ask the maintainer for some redhat 6 bootfloppies :)

I can make them too if you want, but will need to install redhat 6
first.
redhat 5.2 is still my favorite. (on the other hand i have a spare
partition available)

Regards

Robert
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NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by Tony Plat » Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Mike your problem is this

The Linux NCR driver is written for the PCI bus and NOT the EISA bus card
that you have (proliant 4000 has the NCR controller on the EISA bus)

So I used to say, sorry but this controller won't work PERIOD.

But then I had a guy send me an email saying he had written a driver to
support (specifically Compaqs with NCR / EISA combo) your setup.

His name was Richard, but I can't seem to find the actual link anwhere for
you :-(

Try searching this newsgroup with dejanews or somesuch and you might come
across it.

Hope it helps, and if you still have no luck let me know.as the link ight be
on my work machine

Tony Platt


>I am having trouble installing a RedHat 6.0 installation onto a Compaq
>Proliant 4000 with the NCR53C710 controller. The installation simply cannot
>find the controller and cannot continue without it. (I know I shouldn't be
>saying this...) I can install MS WinNT without any problems and the
>controller is recognized and the system boots off of this controller/HD.
>Does anyone out there have any ideas?

>Mike

 
 
 

NCR 53C710 Fast SCSI-2 Controller

Post by asbar.. » Tue, 03 Aug 1999 04:00:00





> > I am having trouble installing a RedHat 6.0 installation onto a
Compaq
> > Proliant 4000 with the NCR53C710 controller. The installation simply
cannot
> > find the controller and cannot continue without it. (I know I
shouldn't be
> > saying this...) I can install MS WinNT without any problems and the
> > controller is recognized and the system boots off of this
controller/HD.
> > Does anyone out there have any ideas?

> Have a look here :

> http://www.sleepie.demon.co.uk/ncr53c710/index.html

> This is an experimental driver, but works OK on my EISA ncr710.
> The machine is a Compaq Prosignia (old EISA iron ;)

> Ask the maintainer for some redhat 6 bootfloppies :)

> I can make them too if you want, but will need to install redhat 6
> first.
> redhat 5.2 is still my favorite. (on the other hand i have a spare
> partition available)

> Regards

> Robert
> --
> ++---------------------++---------------------------------++
> || R.M. Stockmann      ||   InfoMagic Nederland VOF       ||

> ++---------------------++---------------------------------++
> Linux: A copylefted Unix-like operating system for several platforms :
> http://www.ctv.es/USERS/xose/linux/linux_ports.html

Howdy,

I have a proliant 4000 with an eisa ncr53c710 scsi built in, as well as
the smart2 scsi array.  I see that Richard (from the above site) has
posted a boot disk for redhat users to install from directly.  This is
fantastic!  But I'm still having troubles.

When I boot from the floppy I give it the command line arguments for the
memory address and irq of the ncr card, and the memory address of the
array card.  Upon booting I see that it finds the scsi array and also
finds the cdrom.  Then, just before it gives me the lilo prompt, it
tells me that the command line options are incorrect and spits them back
onto the console.  That's odd because if I leave those command line
options off, it doesn't find the card.  If I put them in, it finds the
card successfully, but tells me that the options were ignored. (??)

Anyway, I attempt to install from the CDROM.  I see the light flicker on
the CDROM drive, then redhat tells me "The device you specified doesn't
seem to contain a redhat cdrom" and exits.

Does anybody have suggestions for me?  This is a four-proc box and I'm
anxious to tinker with linux's SMP capabilities :-)

Thank you,

Aaron

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